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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:09 pm

You must have a turbo on the old M30 donk rav?

I think you need to read the spec on my motor winkeye
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:13 pm

Dezzy wrote:You must have a turbo on the old M30 donk rav?

I think you need to read the spec on my motor winkeye
No, no Fi on this donk, thought about going down the s/c route though after seeing Clives set up, no lag winkeye
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:15 pm

i spent an hour today trying to take a sump and steering UJ of a p!ssing e34 525i the rain sleet,snow :x failed with 1 bolt left holding the sump on. Torx bolt and my 8mm socket round it. I was in tears! As i have thoughts about putting my M52 into an E30 one day

Alas the M50 inlet came off easy which was the purpose of the trip. £30 lovely.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:17 pm

You need a tin top first no point in have anymore power with scuttle shake.

My motor is no standard M50 lump mate. If you to be within 10bhp I will have done something very wrong. This is possible as engine building isn't my specialty. :o:
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:17 pm

Simon13 wrote:i spent an hour today trying to take a sump and steering UJ of a p!ssing e34 525i the rain sleet,snow :x failed with 1 bolt left holding the sump on. Torx bolt and my 8mm socket round it. I was in tears! As i have thoughts about putting my M52 into an E30 one day

Alas the M50 inlet came off easy which was the purpose of the trip. £30 lovely.
That is feeble! I would expect more of you Si!
I remember removing a steering UJ off an e36 with Daf and a ball joint splitting while it was snowing and raining in 6 inch of snow.
Thinking about it Daf loves stitching me up and getting me to do stupid things in the snow!
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:18 pm

Dezzy wrote:You need a tin top first no point in have anymore power with scuttle shake.

My motor is no standard M50 lump mate. If you to be within 10bhp I will have done something very wrong. This is possible as engine building isn't my specialty. :o:
Just make sure you time it up right. :mad: winkeye
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Simon13 wrote:i spent an hour today trying to take a sump and steering UJ of a p!ssing e34 525i the rain sleet,snow :x failed with 1 bolt left holding the sump on. Torx bolt and my 8mm socket round it. I was in tears! As i have thoughts about putting my M52 into an E30 one day

Alas the M50 inlet came off easy which was the purpose of the trip. £30 lovely.
Another one converted. :D

Now that only leaves rav and dan. winkeye
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Dezzy wrote:You need a tin top first no point in have anymore power with scuttle shake.

My motor is no standard M50 lump mate. If you to be within 10bhp I will have done something very wrong. This is possible as engine building isn't my specialty. :o:
Just make sure you time it up right. :mad: winkeye

Ha ha I will try mate. I am more worried about fitting my cams
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:21 pm

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Simon13 wrote:i spent an hour today trying to take a sump and steering UJ of a p!ssing e34 525i the rain sleet,snow :x failed with 1 bolt left holding the sump on. Torx bolt and my 8mm socket round it. I was in tears! As i have thoughts about putting my M52 into an E30 one day

Alas the M50 inlet came off easy which was the purpose of the trip. £30 lovely.
Another one converted. :D

Now that only leaves rav and dan. winkeye
I'm sticking with my M30 lump, happy with it in the cab atm, and i've also got another one for the E21, period lumps to suit the year of the car and easy fixes if something goes wrong.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:22 pm

the largest socket i had was 13mm. I was annoyed as i looked at the bigger tools before i left and thought not just take enough to get the inlet off. I might go back Sat for another attack!
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:23 pm

who'd driven and lived with m30's e30's , m20'd e30's and m52's e30s. and i mean lived with and driven daily for months/years

while i havent lived with an m52 e30, mt compact drives in a simlar way to my m3 which was m30'd then turbo'd

i'd have the m52 day in day out for a daily driver. m30 and m52 all cost similar ammounts to install, the M30 maybe a bit less. pound for pound the is no contest, more tuning options for the m52, better fuel economy, lighter.

the ONLY time there is case to keep an m20 is if the car is an original sport/alpina or you want to keep the car period correct.

performace wise, i'd put my money on and m52 car being quicker straight line and rouond a track. a back to back comparion will never happen as there are too many variables to proove this betweens forum cars in terms of suspension set ups, gearing and driver ability

you just have to belive the the people who have had experience with the cars.


felix, i dont know why you even get invoved in these m52/m30 debates. you drive what is claimed to be an original alpina, so off you go and enjoy it before it falls apart
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:30 pm

I have owned e36's with the M50 and M52 , I have also owned a 330CI e46,

dirty 6's just don't float my boat, I always end up back behind an M20, maybe it's a retro thing ?

fook knows..

but i do have an itch I will scratch one day.. S50'd E30 :D
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:30 pm

Kos, while not having had an m30 powered one I have daily driven everything else and the worst one? that bloody 3ltr m52, just span the wheels everywhere, I'm not saying it wasn't fun though!!

I do miss having a cheap e30 but what can you do? I'll just have to pull my finger out and get building. My M20 didn't put up with my driving though so it came out infavour of an m50b25.. Dezzy has those cams now.. and mighty good they are too. They will go in easy Dezzy just take your time :D
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:32 pm

Kos, does the m52 have better fuel consumption than the m20, its only that ive got a little 316 touring in the garage and i might be bored in the summer :D
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Kos wrote:
Simon13 wrote:yes it does don't lie, it leaks on the front of the headgasket like they all do!
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Thats not a leak!!

Its doesn't drip on the floor or drop the oil level at all!

Thats just misting around the headgasket line on the O/S/F of the block.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:36 pm

The only difference i've seen in living with the M30 is petrol comsumption, but this is my daily in the summer/autumn and is easy to drive at 30mph in fifth as it is at 100mph cruising lazily on a "Private" road winkeye
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e30topless wrote:I have owned e36's with the M50 and M52 , I have also owned a 330CI e46,

dirty 6's just don't float my boat, I always end up back behind an M20, maybe it's a retro thing ?

fook knows..

but i do have an itch I will scratch one day.. S50'd E30 :D
I have had E36 2.8 sport. I didn't like it. I had an m50 which the motor for the moredoor came out of. That too didntfloat my boat. They are totaly different in an E30 though. I have been in and driven a few now and can't wait to get them finished. E36 rear axle is too good and they weigh too much. Totally different in an E30

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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:37 pm

Kos wrote:who'd driven and lived with m30's e30's , m20'd e30's and m52's e30s. and i mean lived with and driven daily for months/years

while i havent lived with an m52 e30, mt compact drives in a simlar way to my m3 which was m30'd then turbo'd

i'd have the m52 day in day out for a daily driver. m30 and m52 all cost similar ammounts to install, the M30 maybe a bit less. pound for pound the is no contest, more tuning options for the m52, better fuel economy, lighter.

the ONLY time there is case to keep an m20 is if the car is an original sport/alpina or you want to keep the car period correct.

performace wise, i'd put my money on and m52 car being quicker straight line and rouond a track. a back to back comparion will never happen as there are too many variables to proove this betweens forum cars in terms of suspension set ups, gearing and driver ability

you just have to belive the the people who have had experience with the cars.


felix, i dont know why you even get invoved in these m52/m30 debates. you drive what is claimed to be an original alpina, so off you go and enjoy it before it falls apart
Kos, you had that M30 turbo'd thing for a week before you found the air con spec bulkhead!
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Bob_S wrote:Kos, while not having had an m30 powered one I have daily driven everything else and the worst one? that bloody 3ltr m52, just span the wheels everywhere, I'm not saying it wasn't fun though!!

I do miss having a cheap e30 but what can you do? I'll just have to pull my finger out and get building. My M20 didn't put up with my driving though so it came out infavour of an m50b25.. Dezzy has those cams now.. and mighty good they are too. They will go in easy Dezzy just take your time :D
Oh I will mate. I won't be replacing them in a hurry. What spec were hey bob?
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Kos wrote:who'd driven and lived with m30's e30's , m20'd e30's and m52's e30s. and i mean lived with and driven daily for months/years

while i havent lived with an m52 e30, mt compact drives in a simlar way to my m3 which was m30'd then turbo'd

i'd have the m52 day in day out for a daily driver. m30 and m52 all cost similar ammounts to install, the M30 maybe a bit less. pound for pound the is no contest, more tuning options for the m52, better fuel economy, lighter.

the ONLY time there is case to keep an m20 is if the car is an original sport/alpina or you want to keep the car period correct.

performace wise, i'd put my money on and m52 car being quicker straight line and rouond a track. a back to back comparion will never happen as there are too many variables to proove this betweens forum cars in terms of suspension set ups, gearing and driver ability

you just have to belive the the people who have had experience with the cars.


felix, i dont know why you even get invoved in these m52/m30 debates. you drive what is claimed to be an original alpina, so off you go and enjoy it before it falls apart
Kos, you had that M30 turbo'd thing for a week before you found the air con spec bulkhead!
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:42 pm

i like my e38 328 touring, its grips like a mother f**ker in the bends on sh!tty dunlops. I can't get it out of shape. High chance its coming to the ring this year.

I get 28mpg and high 30's on a run. Its quiet,comfy,fast ice cold A/C and Leathers that are pukka and a bigger boot than my E30. Theres alot to like about e36's. They're good cheap sh!tters to run as a daily
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Simon13 wrote:i like my e38 328 touring, its grips like a mother f**ker in the bends on sh!tty dunlops. I can't get it out of shape. High chance its coming to the ring this year.

I get 28mpg and high 30's on a run. Its quiet,comfy,fast ice cold A/C and Leathers that are pukka and a bigger boot than my E30. Theres alot to like about e36's. They're good cheap sh!tters to run as a daily
And they do big mileages.
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bss325i wrote: Kos, you had that M30 turbo'd thing for a week before you found the air con spec bulkhead!
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i was driving for ages it when it was naturaly aspirated , and turbo'd for about a 6 months as a daily driver till it took it apart.

oil leak doesnt mean it has to drip on the floor, its still leaking though :D

looking at the other posts people seem to be forgeting we are not talking about forget e36 328i's, we are talking about their engines fitted in e30's as opposed to m30's and tuning m20's.
not comaring the driving characteristcs of the cars

bob, that 3.0 m52. hooligan car mate ! :D

people going on about period correct engine swops etc, thats utter bollocks. if thats the case then why paint your cars in non period colour, why have retrim thats out of character.........

if anything the m30 is a cheaper kop out or you didnt know the m52 could go in or they were too expensive at them time (looking at prices 3 to 4 years ago)

right now, these's one way to go
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:59 pm

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if anything the m30 is a cheaper kop out or you didnt know the m52 could go in or they were too expensive at them time (looking at prices 3 to 4 years ago)

right now, these's one way to go
To me it was money and your right , M5x was too much money then, and I can fix the M30, don't know enough on the M5x engines.
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how long has the M30 been wedged in there Rav?
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Kos wrote:who'd driven and lived with m30's e30's , m20'd e30's and m52's e30s. and i mean lived with and driven daily for months/years

while i havent lived with an m52 e30, mt compact drives in a simlar way to my m3 which was m30'd then turbo'd

i'd have the m52 day in day out for a daily driver. m30 and m52 all cost similar ammounts to install, the M30 maybe a bit less. pound for pound the is no contest, more tuning options for the m52, better fuel economy, lighter.

the ONLY time there is case to keep an m20 is if the car is an original sport/alpina or you want to keep the car period correct.

performace wise, i'd put my money on and m52 car being quicker straight line and rouond a track. a back to back comparion will never happen as there are too many variables to proove this betweens forum cars in terms of suspension set ups, gearing and driver ability

you just have to belive the the people who have had experience with the cars.


felix, i dont know why you even get invoved in these m52/m30 debates. you drive what is claimed to be an original alpina, so off you go and enjoy it before it falls apart
Well I will be enjoying it for many many years then thanks.

Ironically I've lived withthe newer BMW engines for most of my teens and mid 20's. Everyone is intitled to an opnion on things just I don't claim mine is is always the right one and have too belittle others to make myself fel better. I've gone past the point of caring what you say Kos because all you do is act like a total jack ass to me out of petty spite towards me. I've got better things to do with my life than troll through a forum jumping on posts that someone has done to try and get them to bite or piss them off. I actually pitty your behaviour towards me, would thought someone so high and mighty up the food chain here would have better things to do with his ever so valuable time.
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e30topless wrote:how long has the M30 been wedged in there Rav?
About 18 months now. Why?
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Kos wrote:who'd driven and lived with m30's e30's , m20'd e30's and m52's e30s. and i mean lived with and driven daily for months/years

while i havent lived with an m52 e30, mt compact drives in a simlar way to my m3 which was m30'd then turbo'd

i'd have the m52 day in day out for a daily driver. m30 and m52 all cost similar ammounts to install, the M30 maybe a bit less. pound for pound the is no contest, more tuning options for the m52, better fuel economy, lighter.

the ONLY time there is case to keep an m20 is if the car is an original sport/alpina or you want to keep the car period correct.

performace wise, i'd put my money on and m52 car being quicker straight line and rouond a track. a back to back comparion will never happen as there are too many variables to proove this betweens forum cars in terms of suspension set ups, gearing and driver ability

you just have to belive the the people who have had experience with the cars.


felix, i dont know why you even get invoved in these m52/m30 debates. you drive what is claimed to be an original alpina, so off you go and enjoy it before it falls apart
Well I will be enjoying it for many many years then thanks.

Ironically I've lived withthe newer BMW engines for most of my teens and mid 20's. Everyone is intitled to an opnion on things just I don't claim mine is is always the right one and have too belittle others to make myself fel better. I've gone past the point of caring what you say Kos because all you do is act like a total jack ass to me out of petty spite towards me. I've got better things to do with my life than troll through a forum jumping on posts that someone has done to try and get them to bite or pee pee them off. I actually pitty your behaviour towards me, would thought someone so high and mighty up the food chain here would have better things to do with his ever so valuable time.
Time to ask, but why the "Hostlity" between you 2???? :roll:
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e30topless wrote:how long has the M30 been wedged in there Rav?
About 18 months now. Why?
Time for a change I reckon. winkeye
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:19 pm

dan, we are talking about m52 and engine swops into e30's. not living with newer engines in newer cars.

in regards to me acting like a total jack ass, i think you'll find that will be you. i recall a post of yours saying how people were admiring your alpina at a show, maybe dc09. i think you'll find it was the shock they were in at the state of it. you are delusional, i have no sympathy for you or any one, i dont give shit about any one apart from my friends and family. so if it makes look like a cun7 for speaking my mind so be it. i dont think my post count puts me up the food chain , you just view it that way. there are far more knowledgeable people here than me, with far less posts. so, so called forum status has nothing to do with my behavior nor should it make me "behave" to not embarrass you . my time is valuable, but this entertainment for me.

simply by replying to my post you've taken the bait so to speak and bitten, even though i wasnt baiting you. i just post what i'd say to your face

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Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:23 pm

Rav335uk wrote: Time to ask, but why the "Hostlity" between you 2???? :roll:
he's delusional and has no actual concept of reality. should i not speak my mind spare him embarrassment ?

we all know his car's a wreck, but 99% of the forum is to diplomatic ( ok, actually feels sorry for him) to say it straight because it will hurt his feelings

me, bothered...................















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Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:28 pm

Dan it's your car fella and if you enjoy it , and fook other opinions :D

I have noticed Kos likes to pick on your C2,

whats with all the baiting , biting ect ? do you guys know each other ?
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e30topless wrote:how long has the M30 been wedged in there Rav?
About 18 months now. Why?
Time for a change I reckon. winkeye
Not until something drastic happens, it's staying put :twisted:
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e30topless wrote:Dan it's your car fella and if you enjoy it , and fook other opinions :D

I have noticed Kos likes to pick on your C2,

whats with all the baiting , biting ect ? do you guys know each other ?
just being honest about it..........

his previous car the cab he sold to cloud was a rusty turd as well, well so i'm told

he can still enjoy his car, it doesnt make it a nice car does it.

its just makes me laught when people say, dan your cars looking good, dan you have such a special car, dan you're car just needs a bit off love

i just think wtf ?

why do people pussy foot about with their words. i saw it at santa pod and DC09 and avon park and you know what, its one of the worst examples of an e30 i have ever seen.

it needs 10 bags , thats what.
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