318iS vs 318i Suspension?

General E30 related discussions -
Please put technical questions in E30 Tech Help forum below

Moderator: martauto

User avatar
djones
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:59 pm

Hi,

Sorry if this is in the wrong section.

Can anybody tell me the differences in suspension between the 318i and 318iS?

I have an iS and have been looking on Eurocarparts. For a start they list the dampers as the same part number.

Is this the case? I presumed it had different damper rates.

Thank for any help!
Sanchez
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 7578
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sunny Scotland

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:06 pm

The 318is has 51mm front strut. Springs aare 15mm lower than the 318i

the 318i has 45mm front struts.
Last edited by Sanchez on Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
djones
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:09 pm

Thanks.

This is going to sound really silly but when you say strut do you mean the damper (shock absorber) ?
e30318ilover
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 218
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:11 pm

45mm
Blitz
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 11155
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: East London+Basildon

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:12 pm

Strut is that leg that the shock and spring are inside.
Alex
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 22666
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:12 pm

318is has rear anti roll bar
User avatar
djones
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:13 pm

So the mounting is slightly different, but the shock is the same part, spring 15mm lower?
Sanchez
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 7578
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sunny Scotland

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:16 pm

If you need front shock absorbers/danpers, then make sure you buy the ones that fit into a 51mm front strut.

In diagram below 1 is the strut/leg. 2 is the shock. 2 goes into 1
http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E30/T ... _absorber/

Finished look is below
Image
Last edited by Sanchez on Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
Blitz
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 11155
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: East London+Basildon

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:16 pm

I'm sure the shock is M-tech.
Alex
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 22666
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:17 pm

Is a 4 pot mtech jobby yes :)
User avatar
djones
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:19 pm

Right, I'm 90% with you now :)

So the damper being the same part number for each has to be wrong?
pac1982
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 5330
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: isle of wight

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:20 pm

e30318ilover wrote:45mm
Off topic but what the hell is your sig pic all about, thats left me disturbed!!
Sanchez
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 7578
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sunny Scotland

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:21 pm

djones wrote:Right, I'm 90% with you now :)

So the damper being the same part number for each has to be wrong?
Yes.
Image
Sanchez
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 7578
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sunny Scotland

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:24 pm

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/BMW_3 ... 194b5&SHKA

Thats what you need. Make sure is you use the ECP site check the parts are for the 16v 1796cc M42B18
Image
User avatar
djones
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:25 pm

Brilliant, thank you!!

Over the next few months people are going to get so sick of my random questions haha

Is a BMW dealer the only place to get them for the iS then?
e30318ilover
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 218
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:25 pm

pac1982 wrote:
e30318ilover wrote:45mm
Off topic but what the hell is your sig pic all about, thats left me disturbed!!
I really dont know it makes me giggle everytime i see it
Sanchez
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 7578
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sunny Scotland

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:28 pm

djones wrote:Brilliant, thank you!!

Over the next few months people are going to get so sick of my random questions haha

Is a BMW dealer the only place to get them for the iS then?

Nope the link I gave you fot ECP are the rear shockers for the 318is. Front ones are there.
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/BMW_3 ... ddad4&SHKA
Image
User avatar
djones
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:31 pm

ah, but thats the same part number as this, which is presumably the 'normal' 318i

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/BMW_3 ... c35e6&SHKA


edit...

Unless the same suspension was some how an option on the 318i? They do seem to also list a cheaper one (same brand) for the 318i as well.
Sanchez
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 7578
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sunny Scotland

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:35 pm

Me thinks ECP got something wrong there.
Image
User avatar
djones
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:37 pm

Its the same for the springs, they are all the same part number :?

Thats an issue for ECP though. The bit I needed to know has been answered and thats brilliant as I'd have ended up with the worng parts!

Are the rears dampers/springs different as well I presume?
Sanchez
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 7578
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sunny Scotland

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:41 pm

Rear springs are 15mm lower front and back.
Shockers will be Mtech ones on the 318is not on the 318i

What are you needing to replace?
Image
User avatar
djones
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:47 pm

I've just bought the car and have a bit of an OCD thing, so over the next few months will probably be replacing all the suspension including bushes.

I bought it as my daily driver as I have a concours 1998 Integra living in my garage which has pretty much everythign brand new on it (its only done 43k as well).

The idea was to just run the BMW and maintain it, but I've accidentaly stumbled across a really nice one. It needs a good polish etc but its going to be mint afterwards and I'm now looking at making this the same :(

The sad face is its going to end up costing me a fortune!
e30318ilover
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 218
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:10 pm

http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/index.php/318iS
Read it if you have any questions ask frank
magpie
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 28035
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Consett,Durham.

Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:25 pm

the is uses m-tech springs and 51mm m-tech shocks/dampers
Image
m52 b30 stroker 6-speed 318is Galvanizer
m42 touring
+ a yard full of scrap turds :)
User avatar
Felix79
All loved up !
Posts: 5134
Joined: Sat May 24, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Hereford

Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:26 pm

e30318ilover wrote:
pac1982 wrote:
e30318ilover wrote:45mm
Off topic but what the hell is your sig pic all about, thats left me disturbed!!
I really dont know it makes me giggle everytime i see it
Sorry but it is really disturbing. Looks like some kind of screwed up rape sceen.
Felix79 aka Dan
If you got haters, then your doing something right!
E85 Z4M Roadster
e30318ilover
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 218
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:27 pm

Felix79 wrote:
e30318ilover wrote:
pac1982 wrote: Off topic but what the hell is your sig pic all about, thats left me disturbed!!
I really dont know it makes me giggle everytime i see it
Sorry but it is really disturbing. Looks like some kind of screwed up rape sceen.
The monster thing is just so funny
User avatar
djones
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 pm

Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:58 pm

Thanks for that link it has some really useful info.

It mentions the suspension and also the 325i.... Reading between the lines does this mean the iS is the same as the 325i in terms of dampers/springs?
Blitz
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 11155
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: East London+Basildon

Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:09 am

djones wrote:Thanks for that link it has some really useful info.

It mentions the suspension and also the 325i.... Reading between the lines does this mean the iS is the same as the 325i in terms of dampers/springs?
Springs should be different.
magpie
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 28035
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Consett,Durham.

Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:18 am

djones wrote:Thanks for that link it has some really useful info.

It mentions the suspension and also the 325i.... Reading between the lines does this mean the iS is the same as the 325i in terms of dampers/springs?
same as a 325isport :D
only the front springs are for a 6 pot on the sport.
Image
m52 b30 stroker 6-speed 318is Galvanizer
m42 touring
+ a yard full of scrap turds :)
User avatar
djones
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 pm

Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:24 am

Where do you guys usually get your parts like this?

I have a feeling ECP and GSF are just going to get this all wrong!

I'm already a bit confused myself what with all the combinations. Just found an online diagram and that mentions a second damper on the front :?
e30318ilover
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 218
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:00 pm

Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:30 am

Dealership is the only place i use except off other people for original parts
magpie
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 28035
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Consett,Durham.

Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:44 am

just buy 4 pot eihbach [spelling?]-35/40mm springs with boge turbo dampers get 51mm fronts.
Image
m52 b30 stroker 6-speed 318is Galvanizer
m42 touring
+ a yard full of scrap turds :)
bmbartlett
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 142
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:00 pm
Location: Essex

Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:17 am

Would all four e30is springs, be able to replace 318i springs as a straight swap?
magpie
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 28035
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Consett,Durham.

Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:18 am

yes.
Image
m52 b30 stroker 6-speed 318is Galvanizer
m42 touring
+ a yard full of scrap turds :)
e30318ilover
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 218
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:00 pm

Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:45 am

By now i wouldn't be surprised if your springs are saggy enough to set your cat at IS stance
Post Reply