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Barx325i wrote: frickin fwd toads think they're all that and more..
Oh I see, well this is a public forum so you are entitled to your oinion, but maybe I should have been more careful and clearly mentioned that this mornings activity was conducted on a private road (yes some of us are fortunate enough) that both chris (sad type R owner) and myself drive daily.I just hope the above story might make you and others think a little bit differently about "racing" other cars on the road
If someone else wants drive at the same speed as me, then fine. If he can keep, then fine . . . . If not, I dont have prob with that,bramley wrote:Years ago I was minding my own business driving steadily when an MR2 came steaming up behind. The traffic ahead cleared and I booted it. I drove like I had something to prove. I drove like an arse, so did the MR2 driver. I was taking blind bends at 90 in a 4 wheel drift - utterly stupid. Anyway, this continued for several miles as we climbed an incline, at roughly 80-85, over a crest, into 4th I glance in my mirror and see an MR2 sideways and in a split second it disappeared altogether.
Imagine how you'd feel when a car with the roof down leaves a tree-lined road at around 85, backwards. I shouted at my missus to get the phone, total fear and panic in my mind. He'd be dead for sure, I thought. And I had goaded him into a 'race'.
I turned the car round and raced back to where he'd gone off. A tree was now partly blocking the road. I parked, ran to the spot whilst shouting at my missus to get the first aid kit. As i got to the fallen down tree a man staggered out on to the verge holding a cut on the back of his head, dazed and unsteady. He was at least alive. I begged him to sit down while I called 999.
As I came off the phone, another car stopped and a guy ran over shouting "have you switched the ignition off" the dazed driver couldn't remember so the passer-by trod over the various bits of car, cds, engine cover etc lying on the verge and disappeared behind the trees. I hadn't thought to look at the car yet, so I went to see where it was. It was sitting on its back bumper, wedged between some small trees, pointing perfectly skywards, literally 90 degrees to the ground, with the underside facing the road. The whole front end was noticeably bent.
I could write pages more, but to summarise, the MR2 driver didn't know the road (I knew it very well) and had assumed the road beyond the crest was straight. It wasn't. Both nearside wheels caught the gravel on the edge of the road past the crest as he tried to turn - from then on he was a passenger.
OP - It's not for me to tell you how to drive, and for all I know you were mindful of blind corners, other traffic, stopping distances etc etc. I just hope the above story might make you and others think a little bit differently about "racing" other cars on the road. The faster car on the road, in my experience, is the car whose driver is prepared to take greater risks.
I had my future wife in the car, how could I be so stupid to put her life, my life, and other peoples lives at risk just because I wanted to be Billy Big Balls and prove I could drive faster than someone else? What if it was my car that left the road? What if the MR2 driver died?
I'm not here to patronize people, I enjoy driving quickly just like the next man. Not surprisingly the events on that day made me think very carefully about how I drive, and now if I want to "race" someone I do it on a track.
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and finally, reading this shocks me mate.I had my future wife in the car, how could I be so stupid to put her life, my life, and other peoples lives at risk just because I wanted to be Billy Big Balls and prove I could drive faster than someone else?
full marks for 'changing' its tone, and as far as inteligence and sensibility, your long moral story clearly outlines your lack of intelligence and sensibility.bramley wrote:Barx325i - it's a shame the tone of your posts in this thread make you sound like a fool, when clearly you are such a sensible and intelligent individual with whom I am delighted to share the country's roads.
As you'll have noticed in my long moral story I was very quick to point out my stupidity so there really aren't any points up for grabs by highlighting that. But hey, it's allowing you to take the moral high ground which you seem to be relishing, so you go on son!Barx325i wrote:
full marks for 'changing' its tone, and as far as inteligence and sensibility, your long moral story clearly outlines your lack of intelligence and sensibility.
seriously..
Barx325i wrote:full marks for 'changing' its tone, and as far as inteligence and sensibility, your long moral story clearly outlines your lack of intelligence and sensibility.bramley wrote:Barx325i - it's a shame the tone of your posts in this thread make you sound like a fool, when clearly you are such a sensible and intelligent individual with whom I am delighted to share the country's roads.
seriously..
I booted it - sensible
I drove like I had something to prove. I drove like an arse - very sensible
I was taking blind bends at 90 in a 4 wheel drift - utterly stupid - intelligent
this continued for several miles - very sensible
And I had goaded him into a 'race' - intelligent
but to summarise, the MR2 driver didn't know the road (I knew it very well) intelligent
I had my future wife in the car - very sensible
Not surprisingly the events on that day made me think very carefully about how I drive.
Now that is the most intelligent and sensible point really - which is clearly your learning curve and just a pity someone else had to suffer in the process.
You don't have to do that. no offence taken, or given. I do appreciate your concerns and views bramley, but I don't wish to be categorised in your demeaning fashion, especially when your story is far more horrifying and alerting than a simple 700yd dash down a private lane.bramley wrote:As you'll have noticed in my long moral story I was very quick to point out my stupidity so there really aren't any points up for grabs by highlighting that. But hey, it's allowing you to take the moral high ground which you seem to be relishing, so you go on son!Barx325i wrote:
full marks for 'changing' its tone, and as far as inteligence and sensibility, your long moral story clearly outlines your lack of intelligence and sensibility.
seriously..
If you need me, I'll be standing in the corner repeating to myself "I lack intelligence and sensibility" until further notice.
Fair enoughBarx325i wrote:
You don't have to do that. no offence taken, or given. I do appreciate your concerns and views bramley, but I don't wish to be categorised in your demeaning fashion, especially when your story is far more horrifying and alerting than a simple 700yd dash down a private lane.
I hope this is a lesson to all you toe rag boy racers
