320i upgrade to a 325i

General E30 related discussions -
Please put technical questions in E30 Tech Help forum below

Moderator: martauto

Post Reply
HUSSAIN
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 207
Joined: Mon May 30, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: NOTTINGHAM

Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:29 am

as the title says, ive been looking for E30 325i for summer project, but after afew weeks of looking, nothing has come to interest. so ive decieded to go for a 320i 2door instead and have the engine changed to a 325i..before i go and buy a car, just woundering, if i change the engine over, will i need to change any other bits, like brakes, gearbox, diff?? just trying to work out all cost before i go out and buy a car.
capri_rob
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 9681
Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: South Staffordshire

Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:12 am

320i will have rear drums - 325i has rear discs so you may want to upgrade to these.

I think the gearbox, propshaft and diff can all be used with the 325i lump without any major issues.
Image

e30topless said : Proper BMW's have 4 headlights, last of the run was the E30 and E34/E32 anything after that is just complete shite
town325i
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 7050
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: cannock staffordshire

Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:47 am

its never a cheap option doing it like this you will always find something else that needs doing. i did when i was doing my touring
Image
zaust
Zone day release
Posts: 13007
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Somewhere in Hertfordshire , or press Ctrl + W

Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:51 am

Engine and box although 2.0 box is a close ratio to the sport box. Prop is fine. Diff might need changing. Rear brakes can always be done after if your not happy with them, and there is plenty of trailing arms disc set ups around.
M30 Tech 1 Touring on gas.
Image
town325i
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 7050
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: cannock staffordshire

Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:56 am

the 2.0ltr prop is only any good if your using the 2.0ltr gearbox if not its a 2.5prop you will need
Image
mrLEE30
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 6589
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sweating buckets in Bahrain

Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:04 am

the 320 also has smaller suspension componants (think its the struts are not the larger 51mm type) but i doubt it will make too much difference for normal driving. as pointed out above the 320 has rear drums but again for normal use not an issue (unless the 320 was specced with ABS in which case it will have rear disks)

thus at a minimum you will need only the engine and throttle body, and best bet is to swap the ECU too (or change the 320 chip to a zone chip), you may also need the exhaust system as some 320 have different stud patterns but sheck this, if they are the same then the 320 exhaust on a 325 engine will not be much of a problem (it may sap a little power but under normal conditions not an issue) as pointed above the 320 has a different gearbox (the getrag 240 i think where as 325 normally has the 260) but they are more then strong enough to accept the 325. the 320 will have a smaller diff but unless you are really leathering it it should last quite a while, the ratio may not suit however, it will be good for acceleration but not for cruising.

but if you have a donor car then swap the front suspension strut, full engine/box/prop/diff/ECU, rear trailing arms with disks and all the rear brake parts.

good luck

mrlee
Image
Morat
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 8943
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: The Peoples Republic of Yorkshire

Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:07 am

As has been said many times before, the best place to start is with a 320i touring - then you won't need to swap the suspension/brakes.
E30 Touring 0.35 cD - more slippery than prison soap :)

Image
Praise the Lard... and pass the dripping!
pacerpete
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 18168
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Iver heath. South bucks.

Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:15 am

Morat wrote:As has been said many times before, the best place to start is with a 320i touring - then you won't need to swap the suspension/brakes.

If you want a 325, the only place to start is with a 325. By the time you factor in buying all the 325 bits and the work involved in changing it all over you will have spent more than the price of buying a proper one in the first place.
Morat
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 8943
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: The Peoples Republic of Yorkshire

Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:19 am

That too.
E30 Touring 0.35 cD - more slippery than prison soap :)

Image
Praise the Lard... and pass the dripping!
Nay
Channel Island Crew
Channel Island Crew
Posts: 3988
Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:00 pm

Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:43 pm

Morat wrote:As has been said many times before, the best place to start is with a 320i touring - then you won't need to swap the suspension/brakes.
Or a cabby??
pacerpete wrote:If you want a 325, the only place to start is with a 325. By the time you factor in buying all the 325 bits and the work involved in changing it all over you will have spent more than the price of buying a proper one in the first place.
So true.

I decided to buy a banger of a 325 rather than go through the hassle of changing my 320i. The 325i is a bit of a banger, but all i have to replace stuff, and more stuff to make it nice. But i have all the fundamental parts already. 51mm Struts, rear disks, ABS, 2.5L manual engine, sport seats etc. It wasn't cheap considering the condition, but so far under a good inspection, no rust (in bad places)..

Basically your best bet is wait, and get a 325i. Just get one that can be fixed.
Image

Uni is killing the project.
Post Reply