E30 Zone

as some of you aware my father in law is technical director gaz shocks.
i aske d him if i could do group buy for zone.
as i,m not technical minded will type this as he dictated to me.
THE KIT IS FRONT AND REAR FULLY ADJUSTABLE COILOVER KITS
WITH BUMP AND REBOUND RIDE HEIGHT.
AT THE MOMENT THESE KITS ARE MADE FOR TOYO TYRES AND BMW CAR CLUBS RACE CHAMP CARS.
REARS ARE ROSE JOINT TOP MOUNTS FULLY ADJUSTABLE.
we need five or more to get them trade which is £628+vat full set.
if you need front top mounts its extra£120+vat.
now i,m making nothing from this doing it for zone and dave doing it for me.
any technical questions have to ask dave lyon but obviously take longer.
dont forget these are front and rear race prep coilovers best of best.
genuine interest only once ive got enough interest then i can ask technical questions and probably get photo of kit also.
thanks for taking time to read.

I am just about to buy a set so im in.
Regards
Ray

Genuine interest from me if there is anything available for the E36? (I just bought a 328 Sport as a track car and am starting it's track prep).

tlee wrote:Genuine interest from me if there is anything available for the E36? (I just bought a 328 Sport as a track car and am starting it's track prep).

hi mate this is group buy for e30sonly i,m afraid.
any other models will have to go to gaz direct.sorry

OK thanks for the update

E30 M3?

Genuine interest from me, is this a bolt on kit or do we use the original struts?

I need some coilovers for my rally car so i am in!

Trise30rally wrote:Genuine interest from me, is this a bolt on kit or do we use the original struts?

I need some coilovers for my rally car so i am in!

you will need to supply old struts as far as I know. At least for M3 struts.
And a set of rear top mounts (can be old ones) to be converted to rose joints

I think you can't beat GAZ's value for money. I know several cars running them and they are all happy. My funds are a bit low at the moment, otherwise I would be in. I have spoken briefly to Dave Lyon at Autosport exhibition and he can taylor everything to your needs (don't know if this is part of this GB)

So i post them my struts and top mounts, they modify them and send them back all shiney???

I better get my car on the axle stands!

is the rear a proper coilover unit which replaces the seperate damper and spring with an all in one unit which fits in place of the stock damper? or do they use a seperate damper and a spring on an adjustable platform like the kw and ground controll kits?

harry_p wrote:is the rear a proper coilover unit which replaces the seperate damper and spring with an all in one unit which fits in place of the stock damper? or do they use a seperate damper and a spring on an adjustable platform like the kw and ground controll kits?

this is complete kit apart from front strutts
as stated above.thanks.
just need 3 more.
believe m3 available to it is e30 after all.
after five in will be in touch how to pay probably be paying gaz direct by cheque or visa or good old green money.
will try and get photo of units up so everyone can see what getting.

He's not asking if it's a full setup..

It's what type of setup on the rear. An ACTUAL coilover, I.E a coilspring over the shock like Mcpherson.

Or a separate shock and spring like most other 'coilover' kits.

at that price is will be platforms under the springs

dips346 wrote:at that price is will be platforms under the springs

no faith some people.
just been on phone to dave.
to clarify a few things.
these are spring over exactly like front shocks with rose joint top mount.
as for m3 exactly same except for roll bar bracket at front.
he also told me louise of pbmw got these on her car.
he is going to e,mail me photo,s next week.
also web site for write up on bmw car clubs race cars set ups.
hope this helps.
now is it a bargain dips

elf wrote:

dips346 wrote:at that price is will be platforms under the springs

no faith some people.
just been on phone to dave.
to clarify a few things.
these are spring over exactly like front shocks with rose joint top mount.
as for m3 exactly same except for roll bar bracket at front.
he also told me louise of pbmw got these on her car.
he is going to e,mail me photo,s next week.
also web site for write up on bmw car clubs race cars set ups.
hope this helps.
now is it a bargain dips

that is a deal boys

Another thing to my wish list

So the rear you can adjust camber/castor like the front?

I don't see how it would adjust toe though

maxfield wrote:Another thing to my wish list

So the rear you can adjust camber/castor like the front?

I don't see how it would adjust toe though

rose joint top mounts do that.
if some of you still 50 50 split wait til photo,s next week.
cant keep phoning dave as i,m not technical minded as i said.
its just he my father in law he,s doing mine for nowt so i wanted to give him something back.
genuine interest only make a list.

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elf wrote:

maxfield wrote:Another thing to my wish list

So the rear you can adjust camber/castor like the front?

I don't see how it would adjust toe though

rose joint top mounts do that.
if some of you still 50 50 split wait til photo,s next week.
cant keep phoning dave as i,m not technical minded as i said.
its just he my father in law he,s doing mine for nowt so i wanted to give him something back.
genuine interest only make a list.

sorry but have to chime in. The rear rose joint will NOT adjust camber or caster, the rose joint is to replace the OEM top rubber mount (= weak)
You can adjust the ride height and the damping, but nothing on the geometry.

maxfield wrote:Another thing to my wish list

So the rear you can adjust camber/castor like the front?

I don't see how it would adjust toe though

no you cant, you can't adjust camber or toe at the rear without using offset bushes and / or a modified subrfame. the rear arm has 2 pivots, it will move in exactly the same arc whether theres a damper there or not.

the front is different as the strut is a structural locating member, moving it at the top changes the geometry at the hub.


i would like to know what strengthening GAZ reccomend for the rear turrets, theyre not designed to take the full suspension load, and the area is known to fail even on standard cars with standard shocks and soft topmounts, letalone a full coilover setup

harry_p wrote:
i would like to know what strengthening GAZ reccomend for the rear turrets, theyre not designed to take the full suspension load, and the area is known to fail even on standard cars with standard shocks and soft topmounts, letalone a full coilover setup

how many failed rear turrets have you seen for yourself? I haven't seen one, but I have seen at least 5 M3's with rear coildovers doing just fine.
And that is with springrates well beyond stock springs. Fit a Z3 plate and all will be fine.

there you go
at least some people helping me out with technical stuff.
sometimes i feel why bother to help anyone out with good discount.
dave at gaz has got 25 years susspension experiance.
does anyone honestly think he would make anything that doesnt work.
and supplys to all e30 race spec cars on bmw car club and to pbmw
cars.
next week i will post up photo,s and if i get five then five zoners
got a fantastic deal.
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thanks again for anyone genuine.probably give this thread two weeks
to get req,d numbers
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here is a pic of a front and rear shock with rear top mounts.
for e30 and e30 m3

so do you need to modfiy the rear turrets to fit these or will they just bolt into the standard ones. ill be reinforcing mine anyway but having new one's made would be greif

bolt staight into standard ones with new rear top mounts

Would you please ask your father-in-law what would be the height adjustability (I'm looking for a kit that will be able to provide a marginally lower stance than stock like say 15/20mm), is it a 1 way or 2 way adjustment? About the spring rates can we choose the spring rate or is it a one size fits all?

Cheers
Frank

UweM3 wrote: Fit a Z3 plate and all will be fine.

And on this point you are absolutly certain??? Do you have a pic of these Z3 plates?
I'm still uncertain, this is a lot of money to shell out in one hit, not that i'm slagging! It looks the mutts nutts
Do GAZ require a pair of struts first or is there a surcharge?
Cheers,

just been on phone to dave again.they do need strutts to make shocks but at no extra cost
also francisco they are 2 way adjustable and can achive minimal drop of 20mm and you can choose spring rating.once enough orders in pm me your details and phone no and i will get gaz to contact each of you with your specific order.e30 of course
they are making eight pairs at mo.as for singular price your talking over£900 + vat so if thats not a saving i dont know what is.

so wats the turn around on sending them your struts and you getting the finished product made. i share a workshop with my brother and my working area is infron of the door so the car cant be laid up for more than a 2 weeks really as he is also building a rally car and needs to be able to get it in and out the shed.

They look sexy!

I am deefanately up for a set, c'mon people! we only need three more!

Similar situation to mikekean, as in need to have the car on the road. I could send the struts the day after delivery of the coilovers. If that would work??

yeah it would be good if could be done on an exchange basis

I might be able to find you some strutts mike.....