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Sump Guards
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:53 pm
by DanThe
Take off from the thread in E30 Chat, this is the type of guard
I will be getting a quote Monday or Tuesday so could do with a list of names of those interested to get an idea of how many we want.
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Re: Sump Guards
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:57 pm
by Sanchez
1. Sanchez '318is'
Re: Sump Guards
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:36 pm
by ed325i
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:50 pm
by shane325i
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:02 pm
by tommy22
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
4. tommy22
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:12 pm
by Andy325i
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
4. tommy22
5. Andy325i
Re:
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:14 pm
by DanThe
BTW, the above guard is (usually) fitted to my car, M50 engined with no clearance issues whatsoever

Re:
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:52 pm
by adil325i
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
4. tommy22
5. Andy325i
6.adil325i
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:54 am
by Jhonno
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
4. tommy22
5. Andy325i
6.adil325i
7. Jhonno
Re:
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:06 pm
by oze30
pending price.. im in
Re:
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:39 pm
by DanThe
Oz, this is just to gain interest to get a better quote, more names more discount, once I have a quote you can drop out or stay in.
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
4. tommy22
5. Andy325i
6. adil325i
7. Jhonno
8. oze30
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:48 pm
by eko
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
4. tommy22
5. Andy325i
6. adil325i
7. Jhonno
8. oze30
9. Eko
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:16 pm
by lenny-d
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
4. tommy22
5. Andy325i
6. adil325i
7. Jhonno
8. oze30
9. Eko
10. lenny-d
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:33 am
by driftbmw
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
4. tommy22
5. Andy325i
6. adil325i
7. Jhonno
8. oze30
9. Eko
10. lenny-d
11. driftbmw
Re:
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:17 am
by chu346
Woulfd this fit an M40?
Re:
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:45 am
by DanThe
Yes it will

Re:
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:57 am
by chu346
Well put me down for one
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
4. tommy22
5. Andy325i
6. adil325i
7. Jhonno
8. oze30
9. Eko
10. lenny-d
11. driftbmw
12. Chu346
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:07 pm
by oze30
actually.. will it fit an m30???
Re:
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:43 pm
by DanThe
No idea on that one.
My sump is very low and it clears ok, would need either a measurement or a car to try mine on to be certain
Re:
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:15 pm
by gareth
i'd be interested but the M30 sump does sit very low too. that's the main reason i'm interested!!!
how much clearance will these have for a sump sitting below the crossmember height?
Re:
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:25 pm
by DanThe
I will get a measurement of my sump height tomorow, no reason why the guard cant be lowered at the front though, a simple spacer between the mount bracket and chassis rail would do the job.
Re:
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:25 pm
by handpaper
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
4. tommy22
5. Andy325i
6. adil325i
7. Jhonno
8. oze30
9. Eko
10. lenny-d
11. driftbmw
12. Chu346
13. handpaper
Having just changed my cracked sump I must say that it's a messy, oily pig of a job and anything that saves me having to do it again sounds like a bloody good idea to me.
"Mutter grumble mumble bloody Karussell....."
Re:
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:05 pm
by ric325i
all about the price because i would love one of these and it looks so good too

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:04 pm
by thrasher
thrasher,yeh me intrested to
Re:
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:43 pm
by DanThe
Ok guys, havnt heard from the guy about material price and availability yet, tried him a few times but being really busy myself havnt had chance to persist with it.
Will do my best to get a price on these before the weekend

Re:
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:59 am
by anisotropy
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
4. tommy22
5. Andy325i
6. adil325i
7. Jhonno
8. oze30
9. Eko
10. lenny-d
11. driftbmw
12. Chu346
13. handpaper
14. Anisotropy
v. interested
Re:
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:31 pm
by lenny-d
any news fella
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:19 pm
by jeremy
so, does anyone knows a price?????
Re:
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:56 pm
by DanThe
I spoke last on monday with him and he hadnt found anything suitable for the plate, problem being the formed bends which is why its so strong for 3 mm plate. Will be going round to his place tomorow to speak some more as I have a day off at last!
Will be posting up tomorow with some more info

Re:
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:58 pm
by handpaper
Looking at the original, I'd say it was formed complete in a press; without serious tooling investment nobody is going to be able to duplicate that. Why not just go to 5mm thick and roll/fold the edges? Should be just as stiff, harder to dent and only a few pounds heavier.
Re:
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:40 pm
by DanThe
Thats right, it is one big pressing. The bends just increase the rigidity of the piece, the main strength comes from the U shaped tube at the front.
Had a chat today and nothing similar is available off the shelf so once he gets chance (V busy at the mo) he is going to make one up with standard flat plate, with extra plating, maybe some removable alloy chequer plate, over the front bend where it takes all the abuse, as seen on mine
The blue highlights the area that will have the extra plating, this is all reinforced by the U shaped tube that sits on the underside of the chassis rails, so it will still be plenty strong enough
Wont be able to give a price until the first piece is completed.
Re:
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:17 am
by Demlotcrew
Another idea is to weld plates onto the sump directly, not only will it minimise the weight gained it will also prove to be turned around in a quicker time.
Re:
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:50 pm
by handpaper
Demlotcrew wrote:Another idea is to weld plates onto the sump directly, not only will it minimise the weight gained it will also prove to be turned around in a quicker time.
Bit of a pain unless you take the sump off, which is a fairly big pain in itself.
Also, if anything is going to hit the ground hard, I'd prefer it to be a lump of steel, not my engine

Re:
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:08 pm
by Giggz
1. Sanchez '318is'
2. ed325i
3. shane320ii
4. tommy22
5. Andy325i
6. adil325i
7. Jhonno
8. oze30
9. Eko
10. lenny-d
11. driftbmw
12. Chu346
13. handpaper
14. Anisotropy
15. Giggz
Re:
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:25 pm
by DanThe
Yes removing the sump is a PITA
Especially on an M50'd E30, engine up, subframe down, P/S pump removed then you can think about removing the pan bolts.
The way I see it, is you have two choices with a lowered car with low sump pan,
A- one of these guards
B- a dry sump.