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750i caliper brackets -GROUP BUY!

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:09 pm
by eko
Following on from this thread
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... sc&start=0
ANT has since agreed to look into making these up,details and costs to be confirmed!
So if you fancy having bigger brakes on your E30 then this is the thing for you.
As far as i am aware you will need the following parts to go with the above brackets.
750i calipers9540i same?)
Audi TT discs(drilled to suit)
So anyone want to join me in this group buy?
Copy and paste the list and add your name :)

We need a minimum of 10 confirmed buyers to make this happen.

1, Eko
2, e30Alex
3, ROC

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:23 pm
by DRIFTBOY
I might be interested.

It would depend on the price.

If it's too much for me, I have a pair of 740i calipers that I'll sell.

Martin.

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:27 pm
by eko
Driftboy same here really,has to be cost effective for me too!
All we can do is wait winkeye

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:34 pm
by fuzzy
how easy is it to get hold of second hand 750i calipers?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:38 pm
by DRIFTBOY
I got mine from a zoner about a year ago, but it's not been a priority job!

Plenty of 540 / 740 / 750s are getting scrapped now the old barges are getting on a bit. Shouldn't be too hard to track down in a scrappy or on Ebay.

Martin.

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:39 pm
by 12345kevin
Are we saying we need to get our own disks machined ? I would be more interested in all machining done, just add calipers etc.

I'll be in, subject to price


1, Eko
2, e30Alex
3, ROC
4, 12345kevin

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:39 pm
by Kedge
^^Same^^

Also i haven't got time to read the big brakes thread tonight, so how would these stack up to something like the wilwood kit (£400) thats on ebay? Both for cost and performance!

Cheers
Dave

Re: 750i caliper brackets -GROUP BUY!

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:42 pm
by toby
I drove the conversion with the 750i brake conversion and it was great. More progressive peddle feel and more bite when you want it. It certainly inspires confidence in control of the car.

I'd like something for 15" wheels so I think this rules me out of this one.

There needs to be at least 10 you mean mate. The more made - the cheaper the cost. These won't be cheap either so it would be unfair if Ant spends time investigating and people drop out. I'm sure you guys are committed though!

Since this is a new venture I feel that Ant at A-Tech should be offered payment upfront as he is a one-man-band and he can invest 'the E30 love' but it's up to us to come up with the cash in advance to finance the venture. It has more chance of happening smoothly this way too.

I sense another zone product emerging. :cool:

Re: 750i caliper brackets -GROUP BUY!

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:56 pm
by eko
Toby i get what your saying about payments up front,seems fair!
Also edited first post to say 10 buyers minimum :)

Re: 750i caliper brackets -GROUP BUY!

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:57 pm
by eko
Does anyone know if 530i V8 calipers are also the same?
I already have the 750 ones but may also have access to some 530 ones winkeye

Re: 750i caliper brackets -GROUP BUY!

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:01 pm
by Kedge
Don't these fit under 15" wheels then?

Re: 750i caliper brackets -GROUP BUY!

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:06 pm
by ed325i
I already have the 750 ones but may also have access to some 530 ones
As long as they have the same width cailpers. 750 ones are 28mm ??

Re: 750i caliper brackets -GROUP BUY!

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:06 pm
by Ant
16" required dude

there's always a downside

FYI the wilwoods need a 3mm spacer to clear the stock BBS :thumb:

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:15 pm
by ROC
Totally agree with Toby, payment up front is deffo the best way.

Cheers,

Rich.

Re: 750i caliper brackets -GROUP BUY!

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:15 pm
by eko
ed325i wrote:
I already have the 750 ones but may also have access to some 530 ones
As long as they have the same width cailpers. 750 ones are 28mm ??
Just checked the part numbers for 530(M60) and 540 and part number do differ!

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:30 pm
by toby
Kedge wrote:^^Same^^

Also i haven't got time to read the big brakes thread tonight, so how would these stack up to something like the wilwood kit (£400) thats on ebay? Both for cost and performance!

Cheers
Dave
I saw the wilwood set up but didn't drive it. Didn't seem as potentially reliable as the 750i caliper rote. The need for a spacer is a pain too after spending all that cash on a supposed conversion kit.

The maintenance cost for the wilwoods would be higher when it comes to caliper repair/replacement time I would imagine. Pad prices are similar according to the ebay wilwood seller.

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:59 pm
by lenny-d
i'm interested in the brackets if you get a price

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:01 pm
by stuartgallafant
i have aquired a pair of E46 M3 front calipers, but i need some caliper carriers. does anyone know if the 750i ones will fit, and if they do, i'll defo have a set of these brackets

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:01 pm
by eko
lenny-d wrote:i'm interested in the brackets if you get a price
1, Eko
2, e30Alex
3, ROC
4, 12345kevin
5, lenny-d

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:56 pm
by eko
Keeping this on the front page :D

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:43 pm
by nickso
i could also be interested, would need a price first but i need bigger brakes and i like the idea of this conversion.....although drilling the discs scares the shit out of me 8O

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:51 pm
by eko
nickso wrote:i could also be interested, would need a price first but i need bigger brakes and i like the idea of this conversion.....although drilling the discs scares the shit out of me 8O
Well price is obviously an issue for all so far mate as we have no indication of a guide price.
Im under the impression that if we can get a minimum of 10 names on the list a price can be negotiated for us.

Must admit the issue of drilling the discs has also crossed my mind but its obviously been done before?
Maybe weld up the old Audi holes to retain some strength?(just a guess).

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:52 pm
by oze30
Would this work for an e30 m3 fronts?

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:35 pm
by keggy
1, Eko
2, e30Alex
3, ROC
4, 12345kevin
5, lenny-d
6, keggy

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:35 pm
by Jon_Bmw
eko wrote:
nickso wrote:i could also be interested, would need a price first but i need bigger brakes and i like the idea of this conversion.....although drilling the discs scares the shit out of me 8O
Well price is obviously an issue for all so far mate as we have no indication of a guide price.
Im under the impression that if we can get a minimum of 10 names on the list a price can be negotiated for us.

Must admit the issue of drilling the discs has also crossed my mind but its obviously been done before?
Maybe weld up the old Audi holes to retain some strength?(just a guess).
Yeah drilling of discs is quite common on the 200sx scene, so definatly do-able. I don't mean whip your black and decker out though 8O

The thing that would concern me is how to take some meat off the centre bore of the discs. I guess you would take it to someone with a lathe?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:40 pm
by eko
The thing that would concern me is how to take some meat off the centre bore of the discs. I guess you would take it to someone with a lathe?
Could this create a weak spot on the disc?
I mean its only 1 mmm apparently so could we not just run a mini grinder/dremel round it till it sits on the hub?
Am i being naive here?

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:00 am
by DRIFTBOY
You just have to make sure all the machining / filing / drilling is dead central.

As someone said, it's common on 200SXs.
I had re-drilled 300ZX (5 stud) front discs on my 200SX (4 stud). Had them smoking a few times with no problems at all - and my god did that car stop! :D

So I wouldn't worry about that if it's done properly.

This is easy stuff for a good machine shop so shouldn't be very expensive.

Martin.

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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:20 am
by DaveD
It is only 1mm to go over the hub ..........now I would be interested if someone would do the spacers for the rx7 calliper to go under 15"................please

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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:31 pm
by nickso
Jon_Bmw wrote:
eko wrote:
nickso wrote:i could also be interested, would need a price first but i need bigger brakes and i like the idea of this conversion.....although drilling the discs scares the shit out of me 8O
Well price is obviously an issue for all so far mate as we have no indication of a guide price.
Im under the impression that if we can get a minimum of 10 names on the list a price can be negotiated for us.

Must admit the issue of drilling the discs has also crossed my mind but its obviously been done before?
Maybe weld up the old Audi holes to retain some strength?(just a guess).
Yeah drilling of discs is quite common on the 200sx scene, so definatly do-able. I don't mean whip your black and decker out though 8O

The thing that would concern me is how to take some meat off the centre bore of the discs. I guess you would take it to someone with a lathe?
my mate could do the discs for me no problem.

im just a wee bit wary of the drilled holes being close to the originals.....im a gambler though lol.

eko's excuse of its probably been done before wont help me when im flying into a hedge at 100mph on the nurburgring or something lol

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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:29 am
by oze30
Id say drilling would be ok if you made the holes closer on the less frictioned side..

If you see a disc rotate, and then brake it, there will be one side of the holes will be stressed more than the other side. it will mean the discs will then be side dependant... On the pax side, drill the holes towards the front of the car as they rotate, as I believe that these will be the least stressed.

BUT i dont see how that would be more or less dangerous than drilling it on the other side, as that side will have more chance to enlarge the holes as the stress is towards the rear of the car during braking


Does this make sense??? Ive had a few pints and knackered.. so if anyone can put this into easy technical terms....:D

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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:19 pm
by chu346
This kit has been approved by the TUV which is stricter than our mot's that we have.

Put me down for some if the price is good.

1, Eko
2, e30Alex
3, ROC
4, 12345kevin
5, lenny-d
6, keggy
7, Chu

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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:24 pm
by dazleeds
1, Eko
2, e30Alex
3, ROC
4, 12345kevin
5, lenny-d
6, keggy
7, Chu
8, Daz

price dependant tho but very interested as have been thinking bout this mod for a while now :twisted:

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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:03 pm
by oze30
will it fit an m3 leg?

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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 12:27 pm
by ed325i
I mean its only 1 mm apparently so could we not just run a mini grinder/dremel round it till it sits on the hub?
This needs to be spot on because its what locates the disc.

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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:40 pm
by oldroydsr4
1, Eko
2, e30Alex
3, ROC
4, 12345kevin
5, lenny-d
6, keggy
7, Chu
8, Daz
9, oldroydsr4

also price dependant but im well up for this