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Steering linkages. Update to UJ build page 5

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:23 am
by DanThe
Ok ive finally found somewhere that is able to reproduce the fine spline that the power steering racks use.
Plan is to produce a solid steel round bar with fine spline on each end, notched for a pinch bolt to pass through and prevent removal while the bolt is still fitted. These will also be turned down to a nice diameter in between the splined ends.
You will have to obtain a pair of E34 type UJ's and rebuild one half with the column half of your E30 linkage to enable a correct fit onto the column.
I can do this if you supply the UJ's

The first lot will be made for an E36/E46 rack fitted in the rear holes of the cross member as this is what im using, if anybody using an E30 PAS rack is interested all I would need is a measurement

Estimated price is to be in the region of £50 - £60 to your door

I need at least 8 names/deposits before I can talk proper sizes/amounts/costs and get a more accurate price.

Like this but with no welded alloy which can cause possible MOT problems

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Re: Steering linkages at last! For engine conversions

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:44 am
by gareth
hmm, could allow an E36 rack with an M30 maybe?

Re: Steering linkages at last! For engine conversions

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:00 am
by Simon13
or e36 rack on an M20!

Re: Steering linkages at last! For engine conversions

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:06 am
by e30topless
Simon13 wrote:or e36 rack on an M20!

e36 rack with a 6 branch ? :D

Re: Steering linkages at last! For engine conversions

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:37 am
by d6dph
Group buy approved, Dan is a trusted zoner so I'm happy for it to go ahead. :)

Re: Steering linkages at last! For engine conversions

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:48 pm
by DanThe
Thanks Dave, I did pm Chris but he seems to be in hiding of late :)

Re: Steering linkages at last! For engine conversions

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:53 pm
by d6dph
It was forwarded to me Dan, So here I am :)

Re: Steering linkages at last! For engine conversions

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:18 pm
by Daf318is
I'm a name :) !

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Re: Steering linkages at last! For engine conversions

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:21 pm
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Re: Steering linkages at last! For engine conversions

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:44 am
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Re: Steering linkages at last! For engine conversions

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:15 pm
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Re: Steering linkages at last! For engine conversions

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:31 pm
by Bob_S
joining this band of scummers.. why i'm not sure.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:56 pm
by N00b
Forgive my ignorance, but does this replace the metal/rubber "guibo"? or is this further down the steering assembly?

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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:18 pm
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:34 pm
by beardymat
This looks just what i need to fit my e36 rack with my btb, im in

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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:26 pm
by Daf318is
N00b wrote:Forgive my ignorance, but does this replace the metal/rubber "guibo"? or is this further down the steering assembly?
Yep does away with it and gives more space :cool:

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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:24 am
by DanThe
As Dafs says it replaces the existing linkage, what you are buying is a steel shaft with splines on each end, you will need two E34 type UJ's to connect it to the rack and column.

I will get a drawing done and drop it into the machinists Monday :cool:

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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:32 am
by essexe30
will using this enable a standard m50 and m52 exhaust manifold to be fitted with no modifications to the manifold

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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:44 pm
by DanThe
As you can see in the picture above the rear manifold will just about go on with my welded link and you can still use the standard flange connection, the front one however will need the flange cutting off as it interferes with the steering rack, I just made a sliding joint as you can see in this picture

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I suppose you could keep the front flange if you wanted, would just mean a bit of cutting/bending etc

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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:00 pm
by Kedge
Anyideas whether this would allow the fitment of either the E36/E46/Z3 when using a BTB2 manifold on an M20'd car?

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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:27 pm
by DanThe
No idea, it would be nice though. If I end up with a spare your welcome to try before you buy :)

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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:52 pm
by mike_sayer
Sounds great Dan, exactly what I need for my setup, I'm in. Thanks for sorting this!

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:14 pm
by beardymat
Kedge wrote:Anyideas whether this would allow the fitment of either the E36/E46/Z3 when using a BTB2 manifold on an M20'd car?
im taking the plunge and trying one on mine so i can let you know before you start fannying around, itll be a pain in the arse to fit only to find it wont do the job as that btb covers the steering joint but ill do mine when the engine comes out to make way for the 2.8 at last.

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:06 pm
by DanThe
beardymat wrote: 2.8
:eek:

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:34 pm
by beardymat
DanThe wrote:
beardymat wrote: 2.8
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is that in reference to the fact i havnt yet fitted it? lol, you cant rush these things

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:15 pm
by Nay
Tempted..

I have a Z3 rack (which I'm assuming is the same), and a spare UJ linkage, but off an E36. Is that different to the E34?

Finally, is this just for that rod, then you split up the spare UJ and attach that to either side of the new rod?

If so, interested so I can remove that rubber bit. Also have a BTB3, but would like added saftey :D

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:25 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:38 am
by DanThe
Similar linkage here with E34 type joints,

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Obviously, my linkages wont have any welding :wink:

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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:26 pm
by blitz877
DanThe wrote:Similar linkage here with E34 type joints,

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Obviously, my linkages wont have any welding :wink:
so thats what the finished article will look like??

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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:07 am
by DanThe
Drawing is in as of Wednesday, waiting on a final price before work starts and a test piece

Finished article will be very similar, slimmer in the centre of the shaft for a start

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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:24 pm
by MarkT
Looks great, could be very interested when the next group buy comes around!

PS is the 50-60 including the E34 UJ's

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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:23 pm
by nickso
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ill have one too.

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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:21 pm
by gareth
MarkT wrote:PS is the 50-60 including the E34 UJ's
DanThe wrote:You will have to obtain a pair of E34 type UJ's and rebuild one half with the column half of your E30 linkage to enable a correct fit onto the column.
I can do this if you supply the UJ's
:D

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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:00 pm
by MarkT
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:18 am
by bss325i
beardymat wrote:
Kedge wrote:Anyideas whether this would allow the fitment of either the E36/E46/Z3 when using a BTB2 manifold on an M20'd car?
im taking the plunge and trying one on mine so i can let you know before you start fannying around, itll be a pain in the arse to fit only to find it wont do the job as that btb covers the steering joint but ill do mine when the engine comes out to make way for the 2.8 at last.
When is that going to be as i would like one to if it will work with my BTB2 and an E36/E46/Z3 rack?