WOW, I think i need a better clutch

[craigieeb]

Any recommendations for a good clutch?

the paddle clutch i'v got in at the minute is slipping just a little when im hitting the boost HARD.


it's only done it twice,
so i'd rather put one in that's not going to slip at all.





i'm running the M20 flywheel btw

[penton08]

Is that a standard m20 cover with a paddle plate? I would be thinking of using a larger clutch/flywheel combo for a start. What gear box are you running?

[craigieeb]

Yeah is the Sachs cover with the paddle plate,
the box is from the 328...

It was fine on the dyno run,
At 1.0 bar it was round about 420
1.3 was 460, with 449ft lb
With no slippage whatsoever ever,

But now it's at 1.5 bar
And slightly slipping.

[DanThe]

What is the paddle plate? Any pics of it?

[penton08]

It all depends on what you want to spend really. I can help with a custom flywheel/clutch combo if need be or just try an uprated cover and see how it goes. 450 lb ft won't be easy to nail down

[craigieeb]

What is the paddle plate? Any pics of it?

I got the 5 paddle "sprung" type from here mate..


http://clutch-specialists.co.uk/

like i say it's been great, but now its on 1.5 bar of boost, i don't think it likes it

It all depends on what you want to spend really. I can help with a custom flywheel/clutch combo if need be or just try an uprated cover and see how it goes. 450 lb ft won't be easy to nail down

I'v sent a few emails to different companys with the specs etc,
so im just waiting to hear back from them, to see if they have anything to sling in....


tell me more about the flywheel and clutch combo

[blackE30indy]

alot of people are running the Sachs 618 preaseure plate,and a paddle disk
In the states an uk,and it's holding fine,
Mines at 1.2 bar,I'm running a helix preasure plate,and helix paddle disk,
Holding fine

[ross2009]

but yours isnt a m50 indy theres a huge difference in power from a m20

[blackE30indy]

Yea true

[craigieeb]

I'v heard a few horror story's about the sachs indy mate,
well not horror story's, just that they dont last 5 minutes and they dont hold up the warranty,


So I'v been onto a few companys,
o34 say..
I could use the spec stage 3+ that they sell and is rated to 500 ftlb, for $549 + shipping etc

The company I mentioned earlier said i need to run a "twin clutch" just so happens they have one in stock for a measly £600+ vat etc

I'm waiting to hear back from Helix, F1 and a couple of other companys

and i'm also giving thought to the fly and pressure plate offered by penton, I'm looking for prices for an uprated cover to fit to it

and an S50 starter aswell

[blackE30indy]

ah okay,didn't realise they were having issues with the Sachs,I've only read up on a few
£600 doesn't sound bad,is that for the preasure plate and disk

[craigieeb]

Yeah that's including solid/rigid plate and super uprated cover,

you are right, there not bad prices, but i know i can get it cheaper



from somewhere

[blackE30indy]

Possible cheaper from the states,just delivery time you gota put up with

[craigieeb]

and over inflated import fees

[blackE30indy]

That is the only downside

[Gunni]

You do not need another pressure plate if you have a 618. I have a 6 paddle clutch and a 618 on a 514lb torque M50B28 and its holding very well.

You do need a better disc however. Don´t get tricked into buying a new plate.

[craigieeb]

Right,
i'v ordered a clutch and it should be here at the weekend or the beginning of next week,

I'v gone with the full SPEC stage 3+

reason being...

if I had ordered just a new paddle plate, knowing my luck, it'll be the pressure cover that needs replacing
or vice versa


I got a good deal on it which I could not pass up really,
so I thought, why not just change both items at the same time for peace of mind

[craigieeb]

Had a nice little delivery this morning






and all for...








Can't believe how quickly this thing came,
it only took 2 DAYS to get from America to my door

http://www.dhl-usa.com/content/us/en/ex ... 3913%0D%0A

thats quicker than i get stuff delivered from ebay

[DanThe]

$30? Is that for the benefit of customs charges?

[Rav335uk]

How much was it really Craig

[craigieeb]

$30? Is that for the benefit of customs charges?

yeah, thats me and the guys from across the pond, at the import charges
I wish it was that cheap
,
But I did get an outstanding deal on it,

one that will not be repeated

How much was it really Craig

cheaper than the list price put it that way

[blackE30indy]

Looks nice Craig,now get that badboy fitted,and get boosting fella

[craigieeb]

It is a pretty looking thing

Not looking forward to fitting it tbh,

Don't know if im just going to pull the engine and box, or just lift the front of the engine and pull the box from underneath,

Either way, it's going to be a pain in the arse!

[blackE30indy]

you Doing it on the drive or on a ramp ?

[craigieeb]

I think It'll be getting done at the workshop on the lift,
Just so happens there's a block and tackle attached to a beam above it,
So might make it a bit easier just to lift the front of the engine and drop the box

[blackE30indy]

That seems the better option,have fun

[craigieeb]

Cheers

Haha

[blackE30indy]

I had to do mine,dropped the car off to Gunni to map,them got a call
Saying take it back,it needs a new clutch,ha ha

[blackE30indy]

I had to do mine,dropped the car off to Gunni to map,then got a call
Saying take it back,it needs a new clutch,ha ha

[craigieeb]

Nightmare!

Was yours just not coping with boost?

[blackE30indy]

when I bought the clutch I was told it was uprated,
Soon as they started hitting boost it slipped,running a helix
Paddle,and pressure plate now,grips nice

[craigieeb]

It's in and no more slipping


plenty of wheel spin tho