Would it work well the turbo management (MS btw). What sort of extra cost would this involve if it's possible?
M30 turbo'd and LPG'd would be an awesome combination
Turbo and LPG
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ImysE30
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Is it possible to have such a combination? Has anyone tried it?
Would it work well the turbo management (MS btw). What sort of extra cost would this involve if it's possible?
M30 turbo'd and LPG'd would be an awesome combination
Would it work well the turbo management (MS btw). What sort of extra cost would this involve if it's possible?
M30 turbo'd and LPG'd would be an awesome combination
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I cant see why not, infact I think it would work great, LPG has a high RON rating so you could run silly 
boost with out fear of knocking and it would be cheap to fill it up..
I am sure Gunny will know
boost with out fear of knocking and it would be cheap to fill it up..I am sure Gunny will know
cant see it being a problem at all ive seen a few nissan skylines and stageas with lpg and there 2.5 turbo would think youd have to run a more expensive lpg sytem with the multi point injection
Injections nice....but I'd rather be blown ;)
It will come down to the adjustability of the Lpg setup.
I´m not sure what the current requirement is on the lpg injectors.
But some ecu´s could easily run them depending on the setup.
Other then that it´s just another fuel.
I´m not sure what the current requirement is on the lpg injectors.
But some ecu´s could easily run them depending on the setup.
Other then that it´s just another fuel.
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There's no problem running a turbo on LPG with a simple venturi system. All you need to ensure is that you have a vaporiser which has a stub pipe connection to the normally atmospheric side of its diaphragm, so that you can connect a tube to reference it to the boost pressure
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Or use a multipoint LPG setup and MS V3 (afaik) to run two sets of injector drivers then you can have a petrol map and a LPG map.
I am by no means an expert on MS stuff but there's a lot of info out there
I am by no means an expert on MS stuff but there's a lot of info out there
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Brianmoooore
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With a multipoint LPG vapour injection system there should also be no problems, as long as it runs properly on petrol. The LPG ECU will be able to modify the petrol injector pulses on a forced induction engine the same as on a NA one.
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sorry to sound dumb, what advantages apart from lpg cost would there be???
could i run my soarer (2.5 twin turbo)on it ?
could i run my soarer (2.5 twin turbo)on it ?
if there wern't people like me,
with cars like mine,
who would you put down to make yourself feel better?
with cars like mine,
who would you put down to make yourself feel better?
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hongkongfuey
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and how much roughly would a set up be
if there wern't people like me,
with cars like mine,
who would you put down to make yourself feel better?
with cars like mine,
who would you put down to make yourself feel better?
I'm halfway through installing a megasquirt LPG system on my car - injectors are 3ohm impedance, to run them like the petrol ones on an M20/M30 etc you need to either split the banks (bank1 petrol, bank2 lpg) and run PWM injector control, or do what I did and put some inline resistors in the connectors to bring them to the 15 odd ohms (15.3 IIRC for my skyline injectors) required.
Boost seems highly possible with LPG, huge resistance to knock... A potential advancement on my project once I've understood the megasquirt side a bit better! But one step at a time...
Boost seems highly possible with LPG, huge resistance to knock... A potential advancement on my project once I've understood the megasquirt side a bit better! But one step at a time...
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Chilton and Onslow-Cole seem to be doing quite well with LPG turbo power in the BTCC at the moment.
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Thinking about this the other day...
LPG requires heat to vaporise it.
Turbos generate unwanted heat in the intake air.
So heat the vaporiser via a (semi)closed loop through an air/water intercooler.
My calculations indicate that this setup could give a intake temperature drop of up to 16C - under all conditions.
LPG requires heat to vaporise it.
Turbos generate unwanted heat in the intake air.
So heat the vaporiser via a (semi)closed loop through an air/water intercooler.
My calculations indicate that this setup could give a intake temperature drop of up to 16C - under all conditions.
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It's the original color. It'll be completely repainted some day but I want to make a few more changes to the body before it's ready for paint.
Before I can do anything on the E12 again I'll have to make sure my daily E30 is running decent again. I'm currently working on a swap engine and hope to finish this before the summer. When the sun shines again I'll start with the E12 and get that up and running. Hopefully I can spend the winter of 2012/2013 building an integrated cage and a rear suspension with E34 M5 LSD to have a safe and reliable E12
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one thing to remember is although lpg does have a higher octane rating, it is alot lower in energy compared to petrol to you have to inject alot more for the same bang meaning alot bigger injectors etc
now injecting liquid lpg has alot more benefits but is very coslty due to the high pressures needed to keep it liquid etc
now injecting liquid lpg has alot more benefits but is very coslty due to the high pressures needed to keep it liquid etc