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Pilot bearing on flywheel

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:47 pm
by capnmchl
Doing an auto to manual swap on a 316.

Do all cars have a pilot bearing in the flywheel or is it only dual massed ones? Real OEM only seems to show a dual mass flywheel.

Anyone know anything?

Re: Pilot bearing on flywheel

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:10 pm
by Curr946
the E30 does have a spigot bearing there's 2 different ones if I remember correctly it depends on what gearbox your using as the end of the shaft on some is a larger diameter part numbers are..

11211709681 for the smaller diameter
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=11&fg=20

11211720310 for the larger diameter

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=11&fg=20

if you order one try it on the end of the gearbox shaft before fitting into the end of the crankshaft

Re: Pilot bearing on flywheel

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:15 pm
by capnmchl
Cheers for that, but they're for M40 engines.

Surely they all have different flywheels and configurations etc?

Re: Pilot bearing on flywheel

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:21 pm
by Curr946
should have explained the M40 has 2 different spigot bearings
I'm sure the thinner ones are on early cars where as the thicker diameter one is on later cars.
discovered this during an engine change on a 316i touring when I was fitting an early engine and the shaft wouldn't go into the spigot bearing
hence why I said depending on your gearbox depends on what spigot bearing you will need

Re: Pilot bearing on flywheel

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:12 pm
by capnmchl
Interesting.

Theres a few last bits to this conversion which are being a real pita due to having no donor.

Re: Pilot bearing on flywheel

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:41 pm
by capnmchl
Right, I think I've tracked it down to this for my car. It's LUK part number 410 0090 10. ECP sell it as well :)

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/BMW_3 ... d78&000277

This is the real oem diagram for my car:
http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mod ... g=11&fg=20

I understand that pilot bearing is #1, but what are #2,3 and 4 and do I need them?