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what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s50b30
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:26 pm
by e30s50b30
guys i thought my car was done , the guy asked me to pick up and to meet him halfway and before i got there he called me saying it had broken down .
he checked it and says oil filter is in pieces and now i'm not sure what could have happened , to the engine , has it seized or does it shut down once it detects not enough oil is coming through ?
is there any warning it gives before going bust and what parts may i need to replace ?
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:34 pm
by TouringTash
eh?
pictures please.
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:46 pm
by E30BeemerLad
So the oil filter housing has shattered or is the oil filter is broken up inside?
Have you seen the car? Were you buying it?
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:54 pm
by e30s50b30
no i was not buying its my car that was being built and yes oil filter shattered inside so not sure if oil was going to engine or not as i was not driving it . the car was serviced not long prior to using it as a donor so not sure what to think.
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:00 pm
by E30BeemerLad
what are the circumstances of the car "breaking down"? Warning lights appearing before it broke down?
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:02 pm
by fuzzy
ive never heard of an oil filter shattering before.
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:05 pm
by penton08
If it has broken down due to oil starvation the engine will be knackered, If it was turned off and then diagnosed it may be OK. Who is doing this work? A S50 oil filter element should be made of metal and paper and i cant see it shattering

Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:10 pm
by e30s50b30
i am suspicious too and can foward pictures if you guys can post up i have no clue how to post them here , so at worst can my engine be fixed or is it now messed ?
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:12 pm
by fuzzy
at best its fixable, at worst its fooked. who knows without seeing whats happened.
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:16 pm
by penton08
If it has ground to a halt due to lack of oil pressure, your better off buying a new engine mate

I would be having someone who knows what they are talking about look at the engine before you go any further, as it could well be something caused by the garage it is with now!!
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:16 pm
by DanThe
Sounds to me that whoever is doing this conversion for you hasnt got a clue..
You can email me the pics or text and I can post them up if you like
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:00 pm
by e30s50b30
i have mailed you the pics and hope you post em up soon cheers
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:03 pm
by pacerpete
Sounds like BS on behalf of the 'mechanic' to me.
We need pics and a vid of all the grim noises when it is running, a drama shared is a drama doubled ! What I mean't to say was we will then be in a better position to help you solve the issue at hand

Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:09 pm
by e30s50b30
i have emailed penton08 pics to put up let me know if you got em . i think its a lot of bs too cos oil filter cant shatter like that ! you will roll with laughter once you see the pics !
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:10 pm
by bss325i
Maybe shattered isn't the best description to use?
I have seen several times cheap non genuine paper oil filter elements that haven't been changed for ages crumble and broken up inside.
I've seen it on M54 and N42 engines but not an S50, not to say it isn't possible on one though.
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:17 pm
by e30s50b30
not that car no expense was spared i kept it serviced up immaculately ! so when filters break would oil still go up to the head ? or would it be blocked and totally cooked ? as a mechanic would you not change filters when putting in new oil ?
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:18 pm
by DanThe
Every time
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:19 pm
by fuzzy
yes,id have thought a mechanic would change oil and filter at the same time.
whats the mechanic saying?
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:26 pm
by e30s50b30
i have posted one pic on my gallery you can look , he is asking me when i had it changed !
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:26 pm
by TouringTash
e30s50b30 wrote:i have emailed penton08 pics to put up let me know if you got em 0????????????. i think its a lot of bs too cos oil filter cant shatter like that ! you will roll with laughter once you see the pics !
remove your number fella, its an open forum and who knows what daft 4am calls you could get.
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:27 pm
by penton08
i have the photos, sorry mate but what a bodge up of a conversion

I would lay money on it being oil pump/pick up related!! the oil filter looks like its been cooked in the oven with no oil!! who done this? and how much are they trying to charge you?
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:32 pm
by e30s50b30
its up in nottigham 3 gs is what it cost gees that means engine is defo cooked ?
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:40 pm
by penton08
e30s50b30 wrote:its up in nottigham 3 gs is what it cost gees that means engine is defo cooked ?
£3k to fit a engine supplied buy you? They have used cast m50 exhaust manifolds (fuck knows how) and bodged just about everything i can see

The engine may well be fine if they can fish all the old filter out. There is no way to tell if its dead by looking at pictures. Get a filter in with some new oil and see what happens. I would want my car out of there hands sharpish though.
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:42 pm
by e30s50b30
where can i go now guys if it starts that is who can i take it to ?
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:45 pm
by Jhonno
This is why I laugh at the idea of a cheap S50 swap I am afraid..
3k.. Notts.. It rings a bell from another thread.
All sounds very fooked.
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:48 pm
by pacerpete
We need pics and the details of Mr Turpin !

Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:49 pm
by leeparkes
This sounds like bad bad news.

has anyone posted the pics? i cant find them.
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:50 pm
by e30s50b30
3k cheap when i supplied the donor and all parts ?
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:50 pm
by TouringTash
He means the mechanic or garage when pete says Mr Turpin bud.
Mr Turpin aka Dick Turpin was a highway robber from long ago.
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:51 pm
by penton08
leeparkes wrote: has anyone posted the pics? i cant find them.
Im trying.... but failing

Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:53 pm
by e30s50b30
pics are in my gallery try with my username or go to recent updated pics you will find em
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:56 pm
by leeparkes
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:56 pm
by penton08
e30s50b30 wrote:3k cheap when i supplied the donor and all parts ?
No, £3000 is slightly expensive for a top notch job (labour only) That is a bad job and worth next to nothing IMO.
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:01 pm
by e30s50b30
so how much do you reckon it costs so i know when i get it done right.
Re: what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s5
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:02 pm
by Jhonno
Pics of said conversion....?!
