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2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:36 am
by Jibberingloon
M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
I have a 3.91 and get about 115-120mph ish and I don't use 1st gear as its too short a ratio
I need more top end ;)
Anyone confirm what the top will be with a 3.64 before I go and buy one.
Thanks
mark

Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:48 am
by Ronits
something the same

i think so i had about 130 mph and my rev limiter was at 7000 .
Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:50 am
by maxfield
Sounds like a 3.25 is what you need.
Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:53 am
by Motorhole
Jibberingloon wrote:M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
I have a 3.91 and get about 115-120mph ish and I don't use 1st gear as its too short a ratio
I need more top end ;)
Anyone confirm what the top will be with a 3.64 before I go and buy one.
Thanks
mark

What gearbox are you using and what tyre size do you have? If you can tell me that I'll post up a little graph

Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:15 pm
by Jozi
Mines a m42 box with standard wheels/tires - if you want to use that for a nice graph

Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:30 pm
by Motorhole
Jozi wrote:Mines a m42 box with standard wheels/tires - if you want to use that for a nice graph

Here's the graph for m42 'box, 205/55/15 tyres and 3.64 diff. Give or take 10% for inaccuracies in actual rolling radius, tread depth, tyre deformation etc.
Note that the E36 box makes a big difference if you're using that, due to no overdriven 5th.

Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:55 pm
by AndyZippy
Motorhole wrote:Jozi wrote:Mines a m42 box with standard wheels/tires - if you want to use that for a nice graph

Here's the graph for m42 'box, 205/55/15 tyres and 3.64 diff. Give or take 10% for inaccuracies in actual rolling radius, tread depth, tyre deformation etc.
Note that the E36 box makes a big difference if you're using that, due to no overdriven 5th.

Excellent - my exact setup! Thanks for posting that, very interesting

Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:27 am
by Motorhole
No worries - it would be interesting to get some feedback to see how it measures up to actual GPS measured road speed! Not done that myself yet either. According to the graph for my setup, (205/45/16 tyres, E36 ZF g'box and 3.15 diff) I'll hit the rev limiter at about 150ish. Probably just about right for a trackday car

Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:11 pm
by DanThe
AndyZippy wrote:Motorhole wrote:Jozi wrote:Mines a m42 box with standard wheels/tires - if you want to use that for a nice graph

Here's the graph for m42 'box, 205/55/15 tyres and 3.64 diff. Give or take 10% for inaccuracies in actual rolling radius, tread depth, tyre deformation etc.
Note that the E36 box makes a big difference if you're using that, due to no overdriven 5th.

Excellent - my exact setup! Thanks for posting that, very interesting

Perfect ratio for your box/engine as a road car that is mate.
Marc yours will still be revvy with a 3.64 as your using an E36 box, 1:1 5th gear, but that ratio should be more widely available and probably cheaper than something like a 3.25 or 3.38 which might be better suited now you have a torquey motor in the bay

Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:19 pm
by AndyZippy
Definately Dan mate, it certainly feels right for everyday driving, and ideal on the motorway. Just waiting on the arrival of a coding plug from adit so that my rev counter isn't whacko and i'll let you know how it compares to what my sat nav says - ~2800rpm at 70 mph sounds pretty much dead on..
Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:22 pm
by Jibberingloon
Well I was going to buy the 3.64 that I have an eye on.
Who has a lower ratio one that I can buy?

Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:35 pm
by Motorhole
Jibberingloon wrote:Well I was going to buy the 3.64 that I have an eye on.
Who has a lower ratio one that I can buy?

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=245482

Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:54 pm
by hillbilly30
Motorhole wrote:Jozi wrote:Mines a m42 box with standard wheels/tires - if you want to use that for a nice graph

Here's the graph for m42 'box, 205/55/15 tyres and 3.64 diff. Give or take 10% for inaccuracies in actual rolling radius, tread depth, tyre deformation etc.
Note that the E36 box makes a big difference if you're using that, due to no overdriven 5th.

Pretty sure same for me too!, only niggle is that at 70mph in 5th it's revving at over 3000rpm which feels a little high compared to modern cars, I've enough torque to pull from much lower revs at that speed but it's nice to be able to properly fly away without changing down

Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:40 pm
by Jozi
How would a 6spd box work with the same diff? Would it sit lower down the revs at 60/70mph or would you need a different diff ratio altogether to make it work nicely?
Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:09 pm
by Jibberingloon
Yep I have now PM'd DanThe
That is right on the money
BOOOOOOMMM

Re: 2.8 M52 with a 3.64 diff what top speed will i get???
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:12 am
by VW-will
You can use e36 328 diff internals into a e30 325 diff, to give perfect ratios!