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M50 Touring project
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:02 pm
by JGG1
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:05 pm
by Cook318IS
Not a bad start squire! I would of thought that the porsche is keeping you busy on the rust front!
I by magical chance have a comfort interior for a 2 door which is missing a drivers seat

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:08 pm
by JGG1
Yeah mate there is plenty to do on the 911 but I am getting bored of having nothing fun to drive so the e30 is my quick fix!
Pm some details on the interior please mate

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:12 pm
by Cook318IS
PM on the way.
It needs the 4pot wiring cover and the battery relocated to the boot to make it look nicer
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:14 pm
by Dezzy
I am fragging a moordoor that has 2 really solid sills mate. The battery tray has been repaired though sadly.
If you want a repair section cutting out of the drivers sill pm me.
I have a nice interior up for grabs too
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=167726
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:33 pm
by JGG1
Thanks mate but I'm now completely skint! Have to just be sheet metal patches and maybe SE skirts for the minute.
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:48 pm
by JGG1
Well after some much needed help on here I identified my gearbox and ordered my clutch, I had a few days off so chucked it in on my drive (not the most fun I have ever had!)
I noticed one of the front shock was leaking so I nicked the fron legs off my 335i breaker
Taking it to work tomorrrow to crack on with the welding, couple of brake hoses and a number plate then it should be mot time! Just need to find some wheels, not feeling the steelies at all!

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:52 pm
by Cook318IS
i may have a friend interested in the wheels bud when you find replacements. They want something more standard apparently - got 17's on it now.
Good luck with the MOT

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:57 pm
by bumpygt
what colour is your touring that you are breaking thanks.
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:59 pm
by JGG1
Lachs silver, its in the "parts for sale" section
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 4:57 pm
by JGG1
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 4:59 pm
by Cook318IS
fucking hell jay - thats got some rot

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 5:01 pm
by JGG1
It had some kind of roofing felt layer under the arch, didnt really notice how bad it was until I started digging! Rough as f**k.
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 5:02 pm
by Cook318IS
whats going on with the touring? You have everything to reshell it into that... right?
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 5:06 pm
by JGG1
Unfortunatly not mate, sold quite a lot already, and in my impatience the other day I chopped a load of wiring under the dash rather than removing it as I was sure it would be getting weighed in!
I now have an incomplete 335i touring that doesn't run and an m50'd 2 door made of dust!!

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 5:12 pm
by Cook318IS
my dad spotted a cheap e30 for sale with a noisy camshaft in one of the magazines he buys it. When he finds it again i'll let you know - might be worth a try but i dont know how local it is
edit: its £595 and in lancashire
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:04 pm
by JGG1
I think I have seen it, white Touring?
After much head scratching today I think I am going to stick the m50 in the Touring as I just can't afford another e30 at the minute!!
I am going to drop the whole front down, subframe, suspension and brakes in one. Any of you m50 swapping pro's got any pointers for me, is it as "plug and play" as an m30 swap? Are the looms joined in a similar way to the m30?
Any help appreciated!
Wish I had looked at the welding before I did the clutch on the floor!

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:49 pm
by Cook318IS
in theory mate yes it should be plug and play becuase you have got everything you need there. the loom of the touring like where the c101 is? the m30 does still utilise the c101 doesnt it? And i trust the m50 engine loom has a c101 plug on it?
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:52 pm
by JGG1
I might as well delete the thread and just pm all my questions to you mate!
Yes the m30 engine loom just plugs straight into the c101, haven't looked at the m50 yet so not sure if that does.
Wish I had looked at the rust before I did the clutch, bought number plates, brake hoses and an interior for it!!

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:57 pm
by leeparkes
For the M30 there will be a wire cut out of the 'body' part of the c101 and earthed somewhere (normally to the starter) iirc the wire is black/green
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:57 pm
by Cook318IS
true, it is a bit of a kick in the nads

At least the brake hoses can be used on the touring and the clutch can still be used!
Fingers crossed the m50 has a c101 on the end of the loom - that way it will be plug and play.
One thing to check out on the m50'd e30 is whether the car has EWS - the immobiliser system that was used on m50/2's from around 1995 onwards. There should be a signal loop, key (or just the chip from inside it), a little black box on the end of the signal loop and the EWS unit itself IF the engine has it. Its worth double checking before you are wondering why the m50 wont start in the touring!! It'll probably be hidden underneath the steering coloumn if its going to be anywhere

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:58 pm
by JGG1
leeparkes wrote:For the M30 there will be a wire cut out of the 'body' part of the c101 and earthed somewhere (normally to the starter) iirc the wire is black/green
Yeah I think mine goes to the starter motor, I did the m30 conversion so I am hoping swapping to m50 won't be too much of a mission!
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:01 pm
by JGG1
Cook318IS wrote:One thing to check out on the m50'd e30 is whether the car has EWS - the immobiliser system that was used on m50/2's from around 1995 onwards

Engine is from a 1993 5 series so pretty sure it won't have ews, I will double check though.
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:01 pm
by Cook318IS
ahh im pretty sure you will be fine then

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:04 pm
by DanThe
Check Pin 20 of the C101 car side to make sure there is no earth wire there
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:23 pm
by eko
Jay there is a 325i 4dr for sale on Preston Down Road.
Only seen it in passing but looked like it had a tec2 kit on/lowered/wheels etc.
Faded Red paint.
Got told by someone the other day that it is MOT`d etc but engine dead?
Well worth a knock if your looking?

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:38 pm
by JGG1
Thanks for the heads up mate but as funds are low I need to use the good shell I already have, some of the missing bits can be whipped off the 2 door and the others are cheap enough to pick up else where!

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 12:25 am
by 78gizmo
Jay i havent fitted the touring carpet etc to my car yet, so if you need it back or the springs etc let me know if i can help out, you must be well peed off mate.
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:47 pm
by JGG1
What a legend! I might take you up on that, only really need the carpet for the minute, got springs and can get door cards at a later date.
Not too bothered to honest, its a hurdle not a show stopper!

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 7:53 pm
by Dezzy
Touring door cards do I hear you say?
I have the 4 all handles and rest's intact. £20 plus postage. Just need a clean no rips or stains.

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:35 pm
by JGG1
Thanks for the offer Dezzy but I think I'm sorted on that front, you don't have any Lachs panels kicking about though do you??

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:37 pm
by Dezzy
Sorry mate I don't.

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:35 pm
by JGG1
I started to dissconnect everything today in the hope I can get the engines swapped over the weekend, nothing out of the ordinary yet, all seems the same as the m30 swap, via the c101.
The ecu wiring was fed through the passenger side of the bulkhead though and the ecu itself in the glovebox. Is this common practice on the m50 swaps?
Wiring, coolant and fuel all dissconnected...

Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:59 pm
by Rav335uk
PM sent
Re: M50 Project...
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:40 pm
by Cook318IS
normally the ecu goes in the standard e30 location above the pedals. Although the e34 m50 loom is shorter than the e36 one so its not uncommon to find then the ecu on the battery tray (like what i had when i was running an m50)