is it worth it??

Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:03 am

i know its a personal thing and how you drive etc... but... i have been using an e36 on track for a few years with m50b25 power, i have a spare motor and am also building an m50b28. question is now that i am swapping to an e30 325i track car is the m50 worth the swap? i know weights and power for the various motors but in real world ie 0-60 etc is it a noticable difference or just a more smooth drive?? i will also be entering the practical performance car £999 challenge again and hope the e30 fairs better than the e36 did due to the sweeter handling and lower weight...

Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:45 pm

thats the sort of answer i wanted!! i have a non vanos 2.5 and a non vanos 2.8 in progress which should give similar power but a tad heavier.... cool willnz cheers

Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:53 pm

I always thought the m52b28 (alloy block) was nearer the weight of an m42 than the m20?

Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:57 am

a forum of this size i appreciate all the positive m50 based replies... does this mean no bugger drives them on track or they just can't be arsed replying ha ha?!?

Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:32 pm

here are some trackday vids

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Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:16 pm

For a track car I wouldnt bother changing from an M20B25 to an M50B25, IMO its not a big enough step to make it worthwhile. An M52B25 yes, as your also dumping weight.
M52B28 goes without saying

Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:47 pm

hmmm m50b28 is the option which is half way i suppose....

Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:06 am

Lee: are those 2 vids your red touring, did you ghave the scorpion m3 system with that to? Trying to gauge how loud mine will be from the vids

Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:38 pm

E30BeemerLad wrote:here are some trackday vids
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Very smooth driving there. Very often more progressive and aggressive than those in front of you

Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:44 pm

It's not me in the vids, I crashed the touring before it got anywhere near a track

I think the guy in the vids is a member though, Stoneyv6 or something similar

Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:58 pm

s50, fi or m60/62 will be better, but also more expensive/complicated! (all though i think the later is a little heavier). I guess it depends exactly what you want it for and even what sort of tracks your hoping to use!

My 2.7 m20 track car needs one of the above and i am currently leaning towards a supercharger conversion.

If your gonna go down the m50 route, definatly go 2.8 with =m20 fly wheel, 2.5 intake, chip etc etc

m50 2.5 may well dissapoint you, as there not much better for track use than the m20 or particulary more tunable from what i have read!

Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:03 pm

i have the complete m20, m50 and as i say a spare m50 and m52b28 bottom end so its a choice of those... m50 to build it then swap 2.8 in once done... i have a parts budget total of £999 for it to be able to compete anyway so s50's etc are a no no for sure!!! i got hold of sump pick up etc of a zoner and it's on route up north right now so i suppose decision made, m50b28 it is!!!

as for which track days /tracks it'll be any i get chance of, from Blyton the local through to a (fingers crossed ) ring trip this summer...

Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:34 pm

It will be a tool, especially stripped!

I thought the ppc £999 budget was for the car and the tuning!?

Where is Blyon? Is it any good?

Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:49 pm

it is, i have the car motor etc etc so no spending to do really and about £300 left of budget!! maybe more as i have spare 17" wheels etc to sell for the budget and the left overs from the swap!!!

Blyon is actually Blyton... lincolnshire near scunthorpe... rough and ready but its normally around £50 for the day open pits and no flags so its alot of giggles for the money!!!!

Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:02 pm

thats cheap!

Surely the "mini Nurburg ring" is the one to do up there!?

Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:11 pm

it is good but at £125+ Oulton is harder to justify to er in doors... cracking circuit though!!

Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:02 pm

Cadwell park is the miny ring iirc? Only been the once and some ozy maniac and others where launching there superbikes over the mountain and getting a fair bit of air considering.

Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:27 pm

Most times ive heard 'the mini ring' its been in reference to Oulton

Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:14 pm

Nah, its definitely Cadwell park.

Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:19 pm

mattrs wrote:Cadwell park is the miny ring iirc? Only been the once and some ozy maniac and others where launching there superbikes over the mountain and getting a fair bit of air considering.

well as far as i've ever known its Oulton... but i may be wrong (our lass says i always am)

my mate launched over the mount a couple of years ago on a classic Guzzi, and sadly that was it... i can't face going there yet to be honest...

Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:22 pm

Sorry

Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:37 pm

mattrs wrote: Sorry

cheers mate