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Top Hose

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 8:54 am
by Cypriotgeeza
What top hose does everyone use?

Im not happy with the makeshift one i made up when putting the engine together and its time to replace it but not sure what engine used one long enough to reach?

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Re: Top Hose

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 8:47 pm
by ImysE30
I've taken this from the M30 WIKI:

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You'll need an E32/E34 top hose, with the built-in T-piece to the heater matrix. This T-piece goes to the bottom connecton on your heater matrix.
You need another T-piece to go in the pipe from the thermostat housing to the header tank (from an E28; BMW part number # 11 53 1 272 866). You can then connect from here to the top connection on your heater matrix.

Any help?

Re: Top Hose

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 12:20 am
by Cypriotgeeza
ImysE30 wrote:I've taken this from the M30 WIKI:

Plumbing
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You'll need an E32/E34 top hose, with the built-in T-piece to the heater matrix. This T-piece goes to the bottom connecton on your heater matrix.
You need another T-piece to go in the pipe from the thermostat housing to the header tank (from an E28; BMW part number # 11 53 1 272 866). You can then connect from here to the top connection on your heater matrix.

Any help?
I did see that pic but its of no use as my head has the coolant elbow on the back so i don't need a T type hose at the front..

Just one that goes from the thermostat to the radiator, just not sure which one came long enough.. :?

Re: Top Hose

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:28 pm
by ImysE30
Not sure, have you tried a search on here or on Google?

Re: Top Hose

Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:08 pm
by Cypriotgeeza
ImysE30 wrote:Not sure, have you tried a search on here or on Google?
Yea, Most of the conversions i can find have the pipe with the T piece going under the manifold..

hmm..

I need to find a long pipe with the right diameter

This is going to be fun lol :snigger:

Re: Top Hose

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:47 pm
by ImysE30
Lol, can't you get a custom one made from a local company?

Re: Top Hose

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:51 pm
by Cypriotgeeza
ImysE30 wrote:Lol, can't you get a custom one made from a local company?
Might go down that route lol

Good old Frankenstein ay :mad:

Re: Top Hose

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:02 pm
by ImysE30
Cypriotgeeza wrote:
ImysE30 wrote:Lol, can't you get a custom one made from a local company?
Might go down that route lol

Good old Frankenstein ay :mad:
Might be easier, somewhere like here:

http://www.pirtek.co.uk/

Re: Top Hose

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:03 pm
by Cypriotgeeza
ImysE30 wrote:
Cypriotgeeza wrote:
ImysE30 wrote:Lol, can't you get a custom one made from a local company?
Might go down that route lol

Good old Frankenstein ay :mad:
Might be easier, somewhere like here:

http://www.pirtek.co.uk/
cheers for that man :thumb:

Re: Top Hose

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:22 pm
by ImysE30
Cypriotgeeza wrote:
ImysE30 wrote:
Cypriotgeeza wrote: Might go down that route lol

Good old Frankenstein ay :mad:
Might be easier, somewhere like here:

http://www.pirtek.co.uk/
cheers for that man :thumb:
No worries, hope you get it sorted soon 8)

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:56 pm
by scoobydo
what is wrong with the standard one from an E28 this doesnt have the t piece

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:33 pm
by Cypriotgeeza
scoobydo wrote:what is wrong with the standard one from an E28 this doesnt have the t piece
Has it got the correct length to reach from the thermostat housing to the radiator though. What engine size from the E28 would be the right size..im sure all engines didnt use the same length hoses..

My engine is an E34 the rad is an E28 rad

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:58 pm
by scoobydo
Here is my one

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part number 11 53 1 276 647

slightly too long but can be trimmed at the thermostat end if you really want.

What did you do about clearance around the heater pipe to the gooseneck on the back of the head. I brazed a copper plumbing elbow. Also had tomodify the gooseneck with a bit of copper pipe. Both of these mods not required if in position 1 or 2.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:24 pm
by Cypriotgeeza
scoobydo wrote:Here is my one

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part number 11 53 1 276 647

slightly too long but can be trimmed at the thermostat end if you really want.

What did you do about clearance around the heater pipe to the gooseneck on the back of the head. I brazed a copper plumbing elbow. Also had tomodify the gooseneck with a bit of copper pipe. Both of these mods not required if in position 1 or 2.
Now this is what i was asking for! Thank you! :notworthy: i will inquire about the pipe tomorrow!

I didnt have to modify the rear heater pipe at all mate it had enough clearance :thumb:

Re:

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:39 pm
by Cypriotgeeza
I sorted this pipe out on the weekend :D

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Much better

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Turns out i got the last one in the country! 8) 8)

Thanx again for the number "scoobydo" :thumb:

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:04 pm
by scoobydo
no probs easy when you know.

Something nice turned up for me today

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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:05 pm
by Cypriotgeeza
scoobydo wrote:no probs easy when you know.

Something nice turned up for me today

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:drool:

1 question..do you have a build thread? :D

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:15 pm
by scoobydo
No build thread. Here is what I had to do with the heater pipe, I have moved my engine from Alpina position 1 to E30.de position 3 allowing front mount intercooler instead of side mounted. Unfortunately not enough room with the alpina inlet manifold for the standard pipe as it fouled on the inlet manifold

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Re:

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:20 pm
by Cypriotgeeza
As i said luckily i didnt have any problems with mine!

Start a build thread mate! :thumb:

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:24 pm
by scoobydo
Here is the current manifold

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Works ok 450bhp 520lbs torque. But now have a front mount and other improvements

Re:

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:12 pm
by Cypriotgeeza
Now after our talk Graham I'm wondering if my hoses which go to the heater matrix pipes are the wrong way around :?

This is how they were when I removed them:

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Now i know most people dont have the pipe at the back of their cylinder heads as they have a delete plate there but can anyone shed any light as to which the correct routing is?

Thanks as always! :thumb:

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:13 pm
by Bristol_Jer
scoobydo wrote:no probs easy when you know.

Something nice turned up for me today

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Mmm sexy! :cool: