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Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:09 pm
by mcbonio
Finally got round to wiring the fan, I have a 90-95 degree temp switch in my radiator which activates my fan. Works fine only the temp gauge is on the 2nd line (a quarter) when the fan kicks in.
Should it not be in the middle? Do I have the correct brown plug in the thermostat, I thought m20 and m20 brown plugs were the same....?
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:32 pm
by mcbonio
Anyone know what temperature the radiator water is when the needle is sat in the middle on a 325i?
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:10 pm
by Bristol_Jer
Around 90ish at a guess, but that is just a guess. You do have to change one of the plugs, not sure which one now, but it says in the sticky thread which one.
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:18 pm
by steve_k
Is thiis about an m20 or m30 engine??
just wondering as the op mentioned an m20 & it's in the m30 section
sorry it's a useless post op.
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:44 pm
by Bristol_Jer
mcbonio wrote:I thought m20 and m20 brown plugs were the same....?
I'm guessing this meant 'm20 and m30', that what I took it as anyway.
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:39 pm
by mcbonio
Ok I have an M30 engine, with an aux fan which comes on at 90-95c. When the fan is activated the needle on the temp gauge is at a quarter.
Shouldn't it be in the middle? This makes me think the brown plug is wrong.
The wiki says "Temp sensor - the brown temperature sensor on the M30 block will need swapping for an E30 (M20 only?)"
How can I tell an m30 brown temp sensor from an m20 one?
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:06 pm
by Bristol_Jer
Is there a BMW part number stamped on your brown sensor?
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:13 pm
by mcbonio
will have a look in a sec.!
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:13 pm
by mcbonio
no part number, just says "MAX 130c"
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:22 pm
by leeparkes
The reason you have to swap the sensors over is the M30 one has two pins and the M20 only has one pin (could be other way round)
My theory on the gauge is with an 80' stat it sits just over a quarter, with an 88' stat it sits halfway.
Not 100% sure though.
Where have you got you fan switch located?
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:27 pm
by mcbonio
Fan switch is in the side of the radiator and my brown plug has only 1 pin yet the harness plug has 2 holes...!
I'm guessing it has the m30 brown plug in and needs a 2 pin m20 sensor....
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:27 pm
by Rav335uk
Thought M20 one was 2 pin, M30 was 1 pin

Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:33 pm
by leeparkes
Either way round you must have the right one cos iirc the temp gauge dont work at all with the M30 sensor.
Ill double check mine tomorrow, im saying 1 pin you need.

Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:42 pm
by mcbonio
Please do chaps, if you can just have a little nosey I'd be very grateful.!
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:05 pm
by leeparkes
Ive got a 1 pin sensor on mine.
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:00 pm
by Mikey_Boy
Yep - M20 Brown plug has just 1 pin....
Don't forget that the temp gauge is just an indicator and not that accurate - 80 degrees is about 1/4 and 88 is about 1/2 way up as leeparkes rightly states...

Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:42 pm
by mcbonio
Well my radiator switch comes on at 91 degrees, so I know the water temp is 91 when the fan comes on, its just the temp gauge reads 1/4.
Go figure.!
Re: Wrong brown plug?
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:21 am
by Mikey_Boy
Have you checked the earth nut on the back of the gauge?? These being loose / corroded can give odd readings...