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yet another m30 swap

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:59 am
by sheebie
hi,

im finally about to begin my swap, just a few questions. (sorry im new to this so they mayu sound abit thick)

whats the second box next to the ecu for?

when removing an engine is it best to completely remove the loom or just detach it from the body and save time maybe?

My rad from the 535 fits perfectly between the legs of the e30, i assume that this should be okay to cool the car aslong as it fits and doesnt touch the engine?

I have a sigma alarm in the 535, is this likely to cause may problem?

and lastly, i heard some used a 325 prop but swapped something over from the back of the gearbox? does anyone have the part number for this? i think it was leeparkers conversation.



Thanks in advance, i will get some picture up later.

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:11 pm
by leeparkes
1, leave it in the donor its not needed

2, detatch it from the body

3, yep there fine, Ravs using one

4, if its been cut into the loom just cut it out and rejoin the wires

5, that will be me, few others have gone down the same route with no problems, you use the gearbox flange from a 325i (must be 325i, 320i isnt the same) flanges brand new are not cheap, one guy i know brought a 325i box for £30 took the flange off then sold the box on, use 325i prop & gear linkage too



Oh and


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:D

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:56 pm
by sheebie
thanks lee,

i have lots f pictures on my phone, but its not connecting to my laptop atm

need some mounts. i will pm you tomorrow or monday depends when i get paid.

the alarm is not connected to the ecu that im using so should be okay.

i got a few questions but cannot uplaod the pictures!

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:12 pm
by shedrool83
Good to see another one about to get underway .
Good luck with it not that you'll need it as just post up any issue you have like i did and their some sorted.

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:28 am
by sheebie
finally got some pictures up:

this is what the 535 looks like at the moment:

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whats this bit for:

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its where the 2 looms meet, do i need to be concerned with it?

Engine loom wise is there any thing else i need to tak with me other then this lot in the picture:

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Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:36 am
by sheebie
Also anyone know what this battery is worth, it came out the 535:

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it is new and i cannot find much info on it, not sure whether to sell it or not

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:30 am
by Rav335uk
That's a 720amp battery, if relativley new, should be woth about £50-£60, but more when New.
That plug, is it on the engine loom or car loom?

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:56 pm
by sheebie
If I remember correctly rav it's connects the engine loom n car look together

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:01 pm
by Rav335uk
Was that connected??and is your e34 a manual?

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:51 pm
by sheebie
Rav335uk wrote:Was that connected??and is your e34 a manual?
yeah it was connected and yes its a manual should i be worried?

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:12 pm
by Rav335uk
Not seen that on my M30 loom???

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 7:53 pm
by sheebie
Rav335uk wrote:Not seen that on my M30 loom???
your getting me worried now, i will check on sunday,

In the last pic, have i taken all the correct connections off?

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 7:55 pm
by Rav335uk
Anything attached to the engine needs to be taken out with it, don't forget the earth strap too, looks like its all there.

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:28 pm
by leeparkes
That white plug is not needed

All you need is the main loom and ECU, main live cable and thats about it, as rav said it helps to keep the earth strap



Edit: will that battery fit in the E30? mines similar to that and 'just' fits, cranks the M30 over lovely :D

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:43 pm
by Rav335uk
leeparkes wrote:That white plug is not needed

All you need is the main loom and ECU, main live cable and thats about it, as rav said it helps to keep the earth strap



Edit: will that battery fit in the E30? mines similar to that and 'just' fits, cranks the M30 over lovely :D
How did you fit the battery, I tried but it was too big for the space?

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:45 pm
by leeparkes
Rav335uk wrote:
leeparkes wrote:That white plug is not needed

All you need is the main loom and ECU, main live cable and thats about it, as rav said it helps to keep the earth strap



Edit: will that battery fit in the E30? mines similar to that and 'just' fits, cranks the M30 over lovely :D
How did you fit the battery, I tried but it was too big for the space?
Mines in the boot Rav :D

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:02 pm
by Rav335uk
Must look into doing that at some point 8)

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 1:17 pm
by sheebie
leeparkes wrote:That white plug is not needed

All you need is the main loom and ECU, main live cable and thats about it, as rav said it helps to keep the earth strap



Edit: will that battery fit in the E30? mines similar to that and 'just' fits, cranks the M30 over lovely :D
yeah it fitted fine, a little squeeze but okay, will be better then the other one.

i sent a payment for the mounts

about the gear linkage, can i use a z3 short shifter and have the stick in the correct position?

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 5:19 pm
by Rav335uk
Short shift is only the gear lever, nothing else, so it will fit on any e30 regardless engine size.

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 8:50 pm
by sheebie
Rav335uk wrote:Short shift is only the gear lever, nothing else, so it will fit on any e30 regardless engine size.
sorry i was not clear, i meant that in the guide it says to swap the 325 gear linkages (which i need :) , if anyone can help). So i can do this and have a shortshifter without any problems?

Sorry if i sound abit thick

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 8:53 pm
by Rav335uk
Yes that's it, nothing special, but remember which way the the link bar comes out.

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:52 pm
by sheebie
M*ther F*ucking Prop is pissing me off, did anyone else struggle to take it off?

i sprayed it with wd40 the day before and it still didnt budge, the m20 one was straight forward, anyone got any ideas?

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:03 pm
by Rav335uk
Are you on the floor trying to undo the E34 prop??
You need a bis extension bar, some weight behind it and then it will shift, or a rattler gun.

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:35 pm
by zaust
Remember the prop splits in to two. So you can remove the box with half attached then attack it when it's on the ground.

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:23 pm
by sheebie
here are the pics of what im trying to undo, PITA:

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I will try again tomorrow if not the do what zaust is saying.

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:51 pm
by leeparkes
If your ratchet can take it get a scaff bar on there for some extra leverage

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:00 am
by leeparkes
Did you get it off?

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:02 am
by Rav335uk
leeparkes wrote:Did you get it off?
Probably still under it :mad:

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:14 am
by sheebie
Rav335uk wrote:
leeparkes wrote:Did you get it off?
Probably still under it :mad:
your not wrong there :)

did get time today, will do tomorrow hopefully engine out and prep time.

I got to say lee you must have OCD or something to get your engine that clean, i dont think i can match that.

Re: yet another m30 swap

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:40 pm
by sheebie
leeparkes wrote:Did you get it off?
finally got the prop off but it didnt come apart from the middle for some reason, so after 30 mins of head scratching i managed to get it off in another way.

engine out, pleasently surprised how easy it was lol

here's a pics:

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next step cleaning full service and spray bar mod, am i missing anything?

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:43 pm
by johnl320
Have a good look at the sump gasket, if its wet, change it before the lump goes in and makes changing it a lot more tricky, something I regret not doing

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:07 pm
by sheebie
johnl320 wrote:Have a good look at the sump gasket, if its wet, change it before the lump goes in and makes changing it a lot more tricky, something I regret not doing
yeah i did notice that, looks like it got 100 bolts on though, going to do all the belts too.

Anything else?

Re:

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:12 pm
by Rav335uk
Water pump, stat, putting a new one on when its in the car is a bitch

Re:

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:20 pm
by leeparkes
Do the sump gasket regardless, mine wasnt leaking but still done it

Cut the aircon pully off (if it has one)

Oh and yes i am a bit OCD :D Hammerite FTW 8)

Re:

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:52 pm
by sheebie
i have tried to clean as best i can, gonna spray the manifolf and mounts in silver, an alpina style rocker and inlet similar to yours. Going to do the stuff mentioned above thursday hopefully everything will turn up.

Does anyone have a picture of how the left hand side engine mount connects to the engine? (looking at the engine from the front)