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Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:05 pm
by crazyenglishman
Ok im looking for some new engine mounts as since welding my diff and fitting adjustable suspension its shown them as a major weak point.
Im after some harsh and affective ones as i use the car for drift days.
So anyone got any ideas?
Cost?
Were?
And most of all which ones do i need?
Thanks wayne

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:11 pm
by ed325i
I got poly ones from here >> http://www.bmw2002.com/

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:16 pm
by crazyenglishman
$90 plus p+p for two is that good in english money?

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:48 pm
by UweM3
OK, me again :D
I can show you an incredible costeffective solution. approx £10. Interessted?

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:50 pm
by crazyenglishman
Costeffective im all ears

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:58 pm
by agreen
OK, me again
I can show you an incredible costeffective solution. approx £10. Interessted?

im in !!!

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:32 pm
by jimthejunior
crazyenglishman wrote:Ok im looking for some new engine mounts as since welding my diff and fitting adjustable suspension its shown them as a major weak point.
Im after some harsh and affective ones as i use the car for drift days.
So anyone got any ideas?
Cost?
Were?
And most of all which ones do i need?
Thanks wayne
Omg you welded your diff, you crazy crazy man, do you realise that it will try to kill you at every available oppurtunity.

I was gonna go for ireland engineering gear, but im listening :D

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:43 pm
by crazyenglishman
A little understeer
Nothing i cant handle :D

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:44 pm
by UweM3
ice hockey pucks! £1 each --> 6 required plus a high tensile bolt each side an double nutted on top.
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Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:46 pm
by crazyenglishman
Very very interesting :cool:

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:54 pm
by agreen
UweM3 wrote:ice hockey pucks! £1 each --> 6 required plus a high tensile bolt each side an double nutted on top.
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are you mad !!!!

so if this is not a silly question uwe what do they feel like ie like solid ones , standard ones , polly ones ??

thanks

arron

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:54 pm
by Karan
ireland engineering are fine so far with my m5 lump

with just one on the drivers side almost no noise increase and greatly reduced engine movement

with both on movement reduced further-almost nil but there was a noise increase

i might put my passenger side one back to stock, as mines a road car

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:55 pm
by agreen
ireland engineering are fine so far with my m5 lump
are these solid ones ?

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:58 pm
by crazyenglishman
As long as they are strong i would be happy, had a pair of standard mounts let go be4 and it caused me a massive headache dont want it happening again

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:06 pm
by UweM3
My engine moves NIL. Vibrations are more but not unbearable. Bonnet shakes a little at idle, but keep in mind I am having a S14 under my bonnet not a silky smooth 6 pot. I have been to the Ring 3 times and sveral UK trackdays without any problem. I actually haven't invented this, DaveG runs them since donkey's years.
So what's wrong, is that too cheap? do you rather spend 10 times the money only to "XY engineering" under you bonnet?

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:10 pm
by alan1272
Uwe that is brilliant! :o :D

i take it you just cut the one in the middle to size using the old mount as i guide? there's no reason this wouldn't work on a 318is is there?

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:22 pm
by crazyenglishman
Take it u just drilled out a hole and used one long bolt, did u sleeve it?
Rubber pucks or soild plastic ones?
Im gonna give these ago

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:01 pm
by UweM3
These are bog standard ice hockey pucks bought on Ebay. Middle one put on a lathe and cut down to size.
Hole drilled int he centre on lathe as well. A 3mm stainless steel plate on top and bottom to stop the engine mount to wear in the rubber. One long M10 bolt inserted from bottom (yes I know the wrong way, but wasn't sure about height and if I need to remove didn't want to take the engien mount off) and double nutted on top with some tread lock.

Word of warning, do not tighten them up too much, just nip'em up and double nut. Otherwise your n** will fall of from the vibtrations :D

Not sleeved, just through the rubber. They are quite tough.

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:08 pm
by oze30
hmm.. wonder how they would be under my donk!

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:38 pm
by Dan318-is
Uwe, you are a complete legend mate :cool: I have e28 M5 ones on mine, engine is solid although my wallet was hurt after the purchase.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:41 am
by Ptr
Guys....Just to confirm Uwe's not mad at all. I use these on my E30 M3. I have done this using the Ice hockey puks, I also put sikaflex between each one (place a large weight on them overnight), this stops any unwanted sideways flex....

You'd be daft spending 10x on anything else

Peter

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:05 pm
by UweM3
Dan318-is wrote:Uwe, you are a complete legend mate :cool: I have e28 M5 ones on mine, engine is solid although my wallet was hurt after the purchase.
This in NOT my brainchild. I have copied this setup from GaveG's track M3
I have stuck them together with Superglue

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:12 pm
by agreen
Can you do this on all three engine mounts ? are there even three ?

thanks

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:17 pm
by maxfield
3 engine mounts :?

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:18 pm
by agreen
3 engine mounts

all right jamie !

so where are they then !

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:19 pm
by maxfield
I thought there was 2 engine mounts and 2 gearbox mounts...

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:20 pm
by agreen
right thanks that all i needed to know cheers jamie

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:45 pm
by crazyenglishman
Gonna do mine as soon as i can locate some pucks, What about gear box mounts any ideas?

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:10 pm
by harry_p
http://www.thehockeystop.co.uk/acatalog ... ories.html

6th item down, a whopping 84p each (+vat) i assume these would do the job?

Uwe, do you have a total length to make the 'mount' and length of bolt i will need? or is it a case of taking a mount of and measuring it which is a bit more of a pain when you're using the car every day. :D

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:31 pm
by crazyenglishman
Hrm min order £10

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:34 pm
by agreen
Hrm min order £10

well ill go in on the order with ya then

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:44 pm
by crazyenglishman
agreen wrote:
Hrm min order £10

well ill go in on the order with ya then
Works out £20.79 for 12 pucks deliverd gonna see what the local sports shop does them for as i will have to post them on to you aswell

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:49 pm
by Karan
do u not get a nasty vibration when the engine twists and u get metal on metal buzzing where the nut/bolt join the subframe? then again i guess u have an s14 so it does that neway :mad:

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:58 pm
by agreen
Works out £20.79 for 12 pucks deliverd gonna see what the local sports shop does them for as i will have to post them on to you aswell
sup to you tbh its cheaper than me going out buying some etc if ya wanna go ahead then i am sure i could stick the postage on and send the monies over to ya mate

Re: Engine mount upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:05 pm
by crazyenglishman
agreen wrote:
Works out £20.79 for 12 pucks deliverd gonna see what the local sports shop does them for as i will have to post them on to you aswell
sup to you tbh its cheaper than me going out buying some etc if ya wanna go ahead then i am sure i could stick the postage on and send the monies over to ya mate
Will defo keep u posted mate as if i find them in my local shop i could grab u some and then u will only pay postage once