E30 Zone

What do you recon for a good disk and pad set up? The brake's will have to be useable on the road though. When on the track i'm not the fastest or the best driver but i do us the brake's hard and tend to brake quite late. I've just distroyed a set of EBC grean stuff today so there no good . Any susgestion's? Also gonna need another set of tyre's soon, same again though, it is a road car that goes's on the track. What do you think?

ATE powerdiscs, ATE blue racing fluid, pads depend on budget really, mintex 1104's and ferrodo ds2500's are great but serious £Â£. Something like the EBC red or yellow would be a decent choice, I've got red's on my 4pot's and they work well, but I haven't tried them in standard calipers.

Tyre wise, i'd go for goodyear eagle f1's - best road tyre i've used.

Discs depends on how much lolly you want to spend, BMW OEM disks are the best at the cheaper end, if you want to spend a bit more I've just gone mintex all round, black diamond also seem popular with the racers.

Pads is a very personal thing, again I've gone mintexx 1144s and 55's split between front and rear, pagids are excellent and had good reports about the ferrados

Fluid boggy DOT 4 is fine if you change regulary, I know of loads of race cars that run it and just change after every meet, DOT 5 makes people lazy.

Tyres, i'm loving the toyo r888s, used to run yoko a048's on the exige and the were excellent as were advans

I run ds3000 in the front but will be changing to ebc red for price reasons,the ferodo's are mint though.
As for tyres I use Yokohama Advan Neova LTS,they are really good for a road tyre when it comes to track work,but they are about £110 each so you would be better off with toyo 888's

schuey wrote: As for tyres I use Yokohama Advan Neova LTS,they are really good for a road tyre when it comes to track work,but they are about £110

LTS- LOTUS compound designed for the elise hence the price ticket, do they not do a different compound?

The A048 LTS are alot more than tha A048 M but are almost identical

Theo325 wrote:ATE powerdiscs, ATE blue racing fluid, pads depend on budget really, mintex 1104's and ferrodo ds2500's are great but serious £Â£. Something like the EBC red or yellow would be a decent choice, I've got red's on my 4pot's and they work well, but I haven't tried them in standard calipers.

Tyre wise, i'd go for goodyear eagle f1's - best road tyre i've used.

Thats a good setup to be honest. E30 brakes are a lot better than people often give them credit for! If you destroyed the EBC greens, go for the reds. I used to use the red in my racers and the feel/balance/performance/COST... balance made them a good compromise for those without deep pockets!!

You might also get some good advice on www.bmwtrackzone.com by the way!

JimmyC wrote:

schuey wrote: As for tyres I use Yokohama Advan Neova LTS,they are really good for a road tyre when it comes to track work,but they are about £110

LTS- LOTUS compound designed for the elise hence the price ticket, do they not do a different compound?

The A048 LTS are alot more than tha A048 M but are almost identical

They probably do something different but I got a good deal! They are well worth the cash though,rock hard sidewall and super sticky when warmed up.

I found the green stuff gave a soft long crap pedal that required a good prod to make them work. Even before i used them on the track i was not impressed with pedal feel. I'm gonna need disk and pad's all around so it's gonna cost me lot's! Not sure if i can afford the ferodo's all around since i've got to by disk's to, but i don't want to buy crap again like green stuff because that was a waste of money. Do you lot use vented, drilled or bmw disk's with better pad's?

i have ferrodo ds2500's braided hoses all round but do i need this blue brake fluid or what i do track days the only thing i will say is that they are not perticually goodfrom clold but when you get emm going them are sooo good i want some discs next but do i need this fluid if swhere can i get it from cheap mates

You can get ATE power discs cheap enough from euro car parts and EBC red stuff for £93 full set-good setup for reasonable money.

euro car parts hey i am of to google to check them out now so groved are good enough fortrack days then and the fluid isthis really neeeded

schuey wrote:You can get ATE power discs cheap enough from euro car parts and EBC red stuff for £93 full set-good setup for reasonable money.

ive always used the ebc drilled/grooved disc with the matching redstuff ceramic pads and cant fault them but have switched to the ate powerdiscs with matching pads for a change last week.i also put goodridge s/steel flexi hoses on and that seems to have firmed things up.

I used the drilled discs on my e30 racers and they cracked very quickly so changed to grooved instead. Grooved ATE discs and red pads are a good budget setup and will be fine for most amateur track day drivers.

Hi,
On my 325i road going track car I use braded hoses, 5:1 fluid and changed from Red To Yellow stuff pads on the front - Yellow stuff pads worked out at £51 inc vat from proven products.(really helpful guys)

The yellow stuff pads from EBC are better for track use than reds IMHO but are course on the road getting to the track until they warm up than they are OK.

Tyres...
I've used Maxsport 205/55/15 radials at £50 a corner from deamon Tweeks - I'd say only Ok 6/10

Q; I am thinking Toyo R888 but have a question - What tyre presure do you use on the track to get the best performance on these and Dunlop road legal 'Track tyre??

Otherwise I put crap old road tyres 205/55/15 on and have a sideways drifting fun day on the track and a full upper body workout with the E30 4 lock to lock steering rack

drifftingon the drack they might not like it if you get a bit sideways all the time on a non drifting track day matey

agreen wrote:drifftingon the drack they might not like it if you get a bit sideways all the time on a non drifting track day matey

It's the Isle of Man - no nanny state here

ohh its like that is it lol

Rotors:

ATE Powerdiscs front
OEM rear

Pads: EBC Yellowstuff front

swap for Greens on road if you need/wish

EBC Greenstuff rear

7 series Brake Master Cylinder (I prefer a firm pedal with good feel...my opinion only)

Refresh brake lines if needed or go braided.

Rebuild calipers if needed.

AP Racing 600 brake fluid.

That's what I did.

You don't need to spend big money to get a good braking package happening in an E30. They do pretty well from stock, so a little bit of tweaking goes a long way.

AP Racing 600 brake fluid, 7 series Brake Master Cylinder i know these item help but are they gonna make any diffrence i have normal discs fido race pads and braided hoses will the two above tings help how much is a 750 ms/s cheers guys

The 7 series Brake Master Cylinder swap is something of a personal taste thing. SOme people really like the feel of it; others think it's a waste of time. I like it. I find that modulating the pedal is much easier and it makes heel-toeing a damn sight easier, too, as the brake pedal sits more on a plane with the throttle, so blipping becomes much easier. It won't really do anything in terms of out and ouyt brake performance, though. It will give a slightly more rearward brake bias from stock...but so little that you won't even notice it I would suggest.

Good brake fluid is a must. The guys above have mentioned some good ones. I like Motul brake fluid and I really like the AP Racing stuff. It isn't cheap but it's not hideously expensive either. Performance is excellent.

Have a look here:

http://www.apracing.com/car/brakefluid/index.htm

Choice of brake fluid can make a world of difference.

cheers fella so all i have to do i phone a sccrappy and ask for a 7 series m/s which model heal and toe made easier has sold it for me is this the only thing i cange just the cylinder yes will order so fluid now where is cheapest what is the blue brake fluid ???

If your car has ABS the BMC swap is a straight bolt in. If your car doesn't have ABS then you'll need a T-piece made up to join the two front lines together to fit onto the single front axle output from the master cylinder.

You want an E32 BMC.

Remember to COMPLETELY flush your braking system. A litre of fluid should do the job.

Bugger, before I forget...we are talking m20b25, yes? I haven't a clue about the 4 cylinder jobs.

no sorry matey i am h reg 318is ???

Look at good rotors or just make sure your rotors are in good condition. Whack on some good quality pads (OEMs won't last on a track day) and grab some quality fluid. That's it. You'll have loads of stopping goodness. I don't know of any BMC mods for the 4 pots. Sorry, man.

no probs have you read the BIG BRAKES ON 318IS topis in tech help any ideas mate ???

Haven't read it. I'll check it out and if I come across anyone doing brake work on an iS I'll post what they're doing.

A brake Bias valve can help too

Ive found some mintex xtreme pad's for £45 and zimmerman crossed drilled disk's for £35 each. What do you recon, any good?