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Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:48 pm
by winx
Done a quick search and found the following thread which mentions I need M12 x 1.5 studs with 38mm exposed length:
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... heel+studs

Bought from here:
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/index.php?cPath=731_738

Next question is which nuts do I need? Would have thought it would be these - 12mm 1.5 19mm (3/4") HEX 60º
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http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/index.php?cPath=731_734

But as the car is 200 miles away I can't nip out and check, can anyone have a quick look for me? :)
EDIT - Standard 15" BBS with a 3mm spacer (to clear the wms brakes)
Cheers guys

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:52 pm
by DRIFTBOY
winx wrote:Next question is which nuts do I need? Would have thought it would be these - 12mm 1.5 19mm (3/4") HEX 60º
Image
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/index.php?cPath=731_734
Correct, those will do it. :D

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:52 pm
by Jhonno
They are the nuts I am going to use..

Longer studs though as I have spacers

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:56 pm
by winx
nice one cheers fellas :D

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:57 pm
by oze30
I'm getting the 80mm ones. I don't mind a little extra length! ;) Cheaper than Ebay too!

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:22 am
by Jhonno
Nothing wrong with 'too long' unless you are running centre caps..

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:26 am
by d6dph
What type of threadlock would be best for these. I know there is various versions of threadlock?

**Edit, Dan want to combine our orders to save a little bit on postage? That's if I don't get them through work obviously.

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:47 am
by Jhonno
d6dph wrote:What type of threadlock would be best for these. I know there is various versions of threadlock?

**Edit, Dan want to combine our orders to save a little bit on postage? That's if I don't get them through work obviously.
Any tbh..

Yeah, plan, why not! When you looking to buy? I was thinking of ordering this week..

I am gonna go for the 48mm ones seeing as I have 5mm spacers not that that matters

If you can get em cheaper through work.. winkeye :lol:

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:50 am
by d6dph
Well I may need two sets, One may happen to be the length you require........




....... Ooh is that a plan I see hatching :P

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:52 am
by d6dph
Oh and 5 seconds of research brings up this threadlock.

http://www.velocitymotorcars.com/stud-c ... m-oal.html

Loctite 262

Think I have this at work already.

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:53 am
by Jhonno
20 off tho.. For spares :P

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:00 am
by billgatese30
I'd go for Loctite 272 dave, high strength and has a higher temp rating than most other anaerobic threadlocks from loctite (which is handy around brake discs) and is stronger than 262 too

http://www.chester-harley-davidson.co.u ... 764965.php

Little bit of that round the threads and I would imagine it would be fine

:cool:

either that or go for an adhesive/high stregth retainer like loctite 290 or 638

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:21 pm
by BigBavarian
d6dph wrote:What type of threadlock would be best for these. I know there is various versions of threadlock?

**Edit, Dan want to combine our orders to save a little bit on postage? That's if I don't get them through work obviously.
Would you mind me tagging on with this? 3 way split with the postage? Want to get some for the track hack

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:24 pm
by maxfield
So, what's the advantage of doing this? :?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:28 pm
by DRIFTBOY
It's a lot easier getting the wheels on for a start, especially in the dark! :cry:

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:37 pm
by d6dph
BigBavarian wrote:
d6dph wrote:What type of threadlock would be best for these. I know there is various versions of threadlock?

**Edit, Dan want to combine our orders to save a little bit on postage? That's if I don't get them through work obviously.
Would you mind me tagging on with this? 3 way split with the postage? Want to get some for the track hack
No, P*ss off!

Yeah no worries mate :D


Jamie. I'm only doing it for the reasons Driftboy mentioned :D

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:52 pm
by BadDave
maxfield wrote:So, what's the advantage of doing this? :?
In addition to Driftboy and Dave's response.

They are essential when you decide to run rather large 4 or 6 pot calipers which have more material sticking out into the wheel spokes pathway,therefore requiring the use of wider than normal wheel spacers.

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:42 pm
by oze30
It also looks heaps better!
Honestly though. It's heaps easier to put wheels on, especially in the dark, and the discs won't spin and block the holes when the holding screw is stripped out and you no longer have it in there!

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:11 pm
by BigBavarian
d6dph wrote:
BigBavarian wrote:
d6dph wrote:What type of threadlock would be best for these. I know there is various versions of threadlock?

**Edit, Dan want to combine our orders to save a little bit on postage? That's if I don't get them through work obviously.
Would you mind me tagging on with this? 3 way split with the postage? Want to get some for the track hack
No, P*ss off!

Yeah no worries mate :D


Jamie. I'm only doing it for the reasons Driftboy mentioned :D
Excellent, quick question tho when it comes to changing discs how easy are they to remove?

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:15 pm
by BadDave
BigBavarian wrote: Excellent, quick question tho when it comes to changing discs how easy are they to remove?
You shouldn't need to remove them when it comes to change the disks.

The only time they would require removal,would be when you replace the hub/wheel bearing assembly.

2 wheelnuts tightened against themselves always works for me when I need to remove them.

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:43 pm
by BigBavarian
Sorry blonde moment the disc will slide over the stud.

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:16 pm
by djs325
+1 for Loctite 272 - This is the Highest temperature permanent locking compound that they do.

I used it on my stud kit (bought the US$7 each studs from BimmerWorld) 12 months ago, and haven't had a problem since.

However, I'd highly recommend either cleaning out the existing threads with a M12x1.5 tap, or replacing the front wheel bearings before installing them - much easier!

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:41 pm
by rix313
So need 16 of each of the items at the top (studs and bolts), discs off, thread lock the studs in, job done?


Where can I get the 262 thread lock from :)

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:47 pm
by BadDave
No need to remove the discs Rich

They can be fitted with the discs in situ

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:54 am
by billgatese30
I'd go for loctite 272 as I said above as it is marginally better than 262.

you can mail order it from here

http://www.chester-harley-davidson.co.u ... 764965.php

Re: Wheel Studs instead of nuts

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:18 pm
by geoffrey
Clean out the threads of the hub and the stud with brake cleaner before using loctite otherwise it adheres to the grime in the threads rather than the thread itself. Also, with 270/272 loctite if you ever need to remove the studs for any reason then heat up the hub with a hot air gun and it will release much easier.