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WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:55 pm
by keri-WMS
We have a chance to get a limited batch of the WMS T10 2-pot caliper made in the right piston size to work on the rear of the E30 without using a bias box. We don't normally get this caliper made in this spec due to it's lowish demand compared to the 4-pot front ones.

This retains the handbrake, uses a 290mm vented disc, fits in the 15" BBS and the prototype has been used good effect on Theo's SR20DET track car.

Here are the 2014 prices - NOTE THAT THE NEW BRACKETS WILL BE CNC MACHINED, SO NOT EXACTLY LIKE THE PHOTOS:

RB001 rear 290mm E30 kit (discs, brackets, calipers, bolts: £455.61+vat RRP) = £432.83+vat with Zone member 5% discount
Brake lines = £35.39+vat
Pads = £varies according to make and compound

These kits will be made to order and I'll need a 25% deposit (for front kits too, if buying with a rear kit) from anyone who wants one so please let me know ASAP if that's you! :D

Front prices are all on the WMS thread: http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=209737

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Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:01 pm
by Duke137
They look ace!

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:15 pm
by E30LI
Very tempting for mine too, gonna ponder over these and let you know Keri! Also, can you reply to my email about the brake lines whenever you have a mo, wanting to get them ordered asap. Thanks!!

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:55 pm
by rix313
Whats the overall piston area of these compared to standard?

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:22 pm
by keri-WMS
They are 2x 1.38" which is:

12.9% more than saloon rear calipers
0.3% more than touring rear calipers

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:51 am
by rix313
I wasn't aware touring ones were larger.

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:25 am
by keri-WMS
Yup! Not many people are, so they get mixed up all over the place in the 2nd hand market!

Calipers p/n 's according to rear OEM:

Saloon:
LEFT 34211153243
RIGHT 34211153244

Touring:
LEFT 34211157791
RIGHT 34211157792

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:11 am
by keri-WMS
No new takers? :(

I think a very limited batch will still happen and I might get one extra set to put on the shelf - see how it goes. If people are interested but it's bad timing/short notice please drop me a PM as I can probably sort something.

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:19 pm
by Jimbob
I think it's just that time of year to be honest!

I'm gonna be tempted to replace the whole lot on my car but that won't be until next year I'm afraid.

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:54 pm
by D3mon_Hunt3r
You know you got me for these. And a front kit as well. :wink:

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:56 pm
by cruizin4dirty1s
how much for it delivered to ireland alltogether

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:34 pm
by Kedge
keri-WMS wrote:No new takers? :(
PM sent but it's still sitting in my outbox.

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:55 pm
by keri-WMS
Reply sent earlier, oops!

I've been double checking pads for this caliper (all the mrfs list it, but they carry lower stock levels):

- EBC Green = £### (one set on the shelf - but Red and Yellow need a batch of 20-odd sets bought to justify a batch being made)

- Ferodo DS3000 = £### (they don't do them in DS2500)

- Hawk DR97 (38-482°C) = £### (on the shelf)

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:27 pm
by cruizin4dirty1s
bump

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:36 pm
by Kedge
Kedge wrote:
keri-WMS wrote:No new takers? :(
PM sent but it's still sitting in my outbox.

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:15 pm
by keri-WMS
As a few people have asked I'm going to apply the zone 5% to everything if front and rear kits are bought as a bundle - so that includes pads/spacers/lines etc instead of just the kits.

Including the shipping discount that's a total saving of about £70-75 for most people.... :D

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:40 pm
by keri-WMS
Ok, so here's how we're looking! :!:

1 - Antonio: Ordered
2 - Dave: Order pending
3 - The Ginger Ninja Mod: Maybe
4 - Oli: Tempted

...a few other possibles, but this is looking more and more like it'll be 2 or 3 sets.

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:31 pm
by keri-WMS
Update:

1 - Antonio: Ordered
2 - Dave: Ordered
3 - The Ginger Ninja Mod: Maybe
4 - Oli: Tempted

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:46 pm
by keri-WMS
Update:

1 - Antonio: Ordered
2 - Dave: Ordered
3 - The Ginger Ninja Mod: Ordered!
4 - Oli: Tempted

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:33 pm
by keri-WMS
Just added a couple more gratuitous kit-in-15"BBS shots: :cool:

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Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:00 am
by anothere21323i
Is there still a slot available for these? If so, give me the details and I'll sort you out with the deposit :D

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:54 pm
by keri-WMS
The first batch hasn't arrived yet (annoyingly), but there's a chance that there might be one free pair when they do show up....

Also there could well be another batch in the future.

I'll drop you a PM! :D

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:54 pm
by anothere21323i
PM replied to! :D

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:43 pm
by keri-WMS
Woooohooooo!!!!! Image Image Image

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Now to get them checked against the new design of brackets and get the brackets made - about bloody time too! :o:

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:49 pm
by keri-WMS
PLEASE NOTE:

The price of this kit has to go up I'm afraid. I'm working on ways to limit this but the price is looking to change to between £460+vat and £512+vat. I'll confirm the new price next week when I know exactly what the CNC brackets will cost.

For Dave, Antonio and Tony who have been waiting and have placed deposits the price is frozen at what I quoted so don't worry!

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:02 am
by Duke137
Keri is your inbox full? :?

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:04 am
by Kedge
keri-WMS wrote:Woooohooooo!!!!! Image Image Image

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Now to get them checked against the new design of brackets and get the brackets made - about bloody time too! :o:
:drool:

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:09 am
by keri-WMS
Duke137 wrote:Keri is your inbox full? :?
No, I do have a heap of email/PMs to reply to though - I've been buried in R&D for a couple of days... :mad:

I'll drop you a quick PM now.

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:44 am
by anothere21323i
keri-WMS wrote:PLEASE NOTE:

The price of this kit has to go up I'm afraid. I'm working on ways to limit this but the price is looking to change to between £460+vat and £512+vat. I'll confirm the new price next week when I know exactly what the CNC brackets will cost.

For Dave, Antonio and Tony who have been waiting and have placed deposits the price is frozen at what I quoted so don't worry!
:D

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:19 pm
by keri-WMS
I'm still waiting for an up to date cost on a couple of bits so the new RRP will have to wait 'til Monday or later.

The CNC guys have got the bracket drawings, so that's progressing ok!

The outboard/"threaded" option has taken the record for the most fiddly bracket design to date!!! I hope it won't be a shocker in price terms, if it is then it'll probably be a CNC version of the inboard one like the prototype in the photos. Both have been 3D modeled, drawn and are with the CNC lot to see which makes more sense to make.

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:58 pm
by keri-WMS
Oh, also I've made some progress on matching F+R pads, I can do some Wilwood ones and EBC are now saying I can do their ones on the rear as well - but as they are "specials" there's a 3-week lead time on them.

Anyone who wants to change over can as there's time to sort it out as pads are the last thing we buy in - but any EBC compound other than green (at the rear) needs that 3-weeks! So we had better get onto it straight away if you fancy Red/Yellow - we've never had "specials" from EBC before so it should be interesting.

(...as interesting as a brake pad can get I mean! Image )

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:37 pm
by keri-WMS
I missed a delivery this morning - as far as I know that was the brackets being delivered...

So just a heads-up, dummy fitting is next as long as the courier is back tomorrow, then assuming all's good I'll send out (£) balance requests, then get the line/pads etc in (same as any normal order where I have the calipers/bracket/discs on the shelf), and we'll be there at last!

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Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:57 pm
by keri-WMS
Woohoo! 8)

Neater and slightly thicker bracket, all fits perfectly:
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I'll get PMs/emails out to people tonight. :cool:

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:00 pm
by mikeyboy
hey keri, how you fella. i thought i would ask if you have yet developed a kit for the mk2 golf gti 16v? i never got to put the 4pots on my e30 and sold them to a fella zoner. planning on getting the golf by summer and want it running and stopping exceptionally. :mad:

Re: WMS 2-pot REAR brake, limited run this month only.....

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:56 am
by keri-WMS
Hi Mike, no VW kits as yet, I'll drop you a PM!

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Update on the orders:

1 - Antonio: Awaiting payment
2 - Dave: PAID!
3 - The Ginger Ninja Mod: PAID!
4 - Tony: Awaiting payment