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starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:09 pm
by nickalauski
hi, i've just brought a written off m3 for a s50 / e30 engine conversion. the trouble is i didn't recieve keys!!

with the ignition switch remove i can power up the second position but when turn to crack nothing happens. does anyone know an easy way to start the enigne?

I would like to hear the engine run before i take it out. The car is a 1995 non evo thanks.

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:27 pm
by whipsey
possibly get a new key from dealers?

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:46 pm
by HairyScreech
thats an imobiliser kicking in a start inhibit relay. find the relay and go backwards from there. :wink:

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:13 pm
by Steve-E30
Arent the keys chipped for the ecu hence it wont turn over so its to do with the immobiliser , Heard that somewhere :idea:

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:54 pm
by whipsey
Steve-E30 wrote:Arent the keys chipped for the ecu hence it wont turn over so its to do with the immobiliser , Heard that somewhere :idea:
thats what i was thinking my vectra lost a small piece of plastic from inside the key turned out to be the imobiliser code

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:56 pm
by doughboy
got my 306gti6 ecu unlocked for 140 quid, dunno if the m3 is as easy though

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:59 pm
by zimmerbimmer1
Sounds like your car has the ews system, check around the ignition barrel for the ring antenna if there is a plastic ring with a wire on it your car has ews.

To obtain a new key you would need to order it through your local BMW Dealer but you may have a problem ordering it as they WILL need to see the Reg Doc in your name with proof of ID..

If you do not have these it is down to the dealers discretion whether they would supply you a key or not

To confirm if your car has the ews system pm me the chassis number and I'll check it for you.

:D :D

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:02 pm
by zimmerbimmer1
The unfortunate thing is if the car does have ews and you can't obtain a key you will never start the car.

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:52 pm
by nickalauski
thanks for the advice.

there is a transponder reciever around the ignition barrel which is a problem! many others have done s50 engine coversions in e30's using standard management, so how is this possible?

will i need to get the ecu unlocked? if so who can do it?

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:54 pm
by Jhonno
no you install the ews into the e30!

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:57 pm
by eko
Can be started without the key even though it has EWS!
I havent done it myself but saw how it was done earlier this week winkeye
PM sent :D

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:14 am
by nickalauski
eko, top stuff.

i will try that tomorrow. fingers crossed!

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:16 am
by eko
Let us know how you get on!

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:24 am
by Jhonno
EKO mate, i dunno if that should be posted on the foum 4 all too see.. :wink:

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:26 am
by eko
Jhonno wrote:EKO mate, i dunno if that should be posted on the foum 4 all too see.. :wink:
Good point mate,edited now :)

Re: starting a e36 m3 without keys

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:40 am
by ian332isport
eko wrote:Can be started without the key even though it has EWS!
I havent done it myself but saw how it was done earlier this week winkeye
PM sent :D
Just out of interest, can you also PM me the info on how this is done ?

Ian.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:32 am
by nickalauski
i will be trying to fire up the m3 today using methods discussed earlier.

i will report back later!

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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:35 pm
by james_obryan
Pm me also (e36 here with broken barell)

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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:18 pm
by nickalauski
still no luck in starting the engine. i also discovered a hole in the sump so i can not start the engine at this stage.

Also required is a 5 series m50 sump pan. if anyone has or knows of one please pm me.

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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:30 pm
by james_obryan
I am breaking an S50B32 engine and have the sump, pm/email sent.