E30 Zone

Posted: **Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:09 pm**

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/06/27/and- ... o-adventur

Posted: **Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:11 pm**

the rollcage did what is was suppose to do

Posted: **Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:26 pm**

its amazing that someone can walk away from something like that yet a relatively minor crash can result in death.i guess when your times up its up

Posted: **Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:55 pm**

Bet he was dizzy after that one

I'd love to cage my e30 but insurance wont have it

Posted: **Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:06 pm**

georob wrote:Bet he was dizzy after that one

I'd love to cage my e30 but insurance wont have it

Why the f*ck not?

Surely any mod which makes the car safer should entitle you to a discount or at the very least no increase to your standard premium?

Taylor.

Posted: **Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:42 pm**

Taylor325i wrote:
georob wrote:Bet he was dizzy after that one

I'd love to cage my e30 but insurance wont have it

Why the f*ck not?

Surely any mod which makes the car safer should entitle you to a discount or at the very least no increase to your standard premium?

Taylor.

...because insurance companies beleive that rollcages make the driver feel hes invincible. And that you will drive like a twat if you think you can walk away from high speed accidents.

IMHO its a fair point.

Posted: **Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:53 pm**

As said a nasty accident, but a true testiment to the cage design that he walked alway

Andy

Posted: **Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:39 pm**

that was bad.

did anyone else notice the prop shaft shaking about in the tranny tunnel?

Posted: **Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:25 pm**

Rich_W wrote:
Taylor325i wrote:
georob wrote:Bet he was dizzy after that one

I'd love to cage my e30 but insurance wont have it

Why the f*ck not?

Surely any mod which makes the car safer should entitle you to a discount or at the very least no increase to your standard premium?

Taylor.
...because insurance companies beleive that rollcages make the driver feel hes invincible. And that you will drive like a twat if you think you can walk away from high speed accidents.

IMHO its a fair point.

i would imagine most normal insurance companies won't cover a car with a roll cage; they'll have their reasons, mostly it's not what they normally do. There are a few companies who will insure a caged race car for road driving e.g. Heritage if that's what you need.
A roll cage is intended to make a saftey cell for the driver for track use. A roll cage will make a car less safe for road use, this is because the cage introduces steel tubing inside the car shell where previously there wasn't any. The cage tubing is in places that you're likely to hit with your head, arms and other bits of your body if you are not securely strapped in into a proper race seat and are wearing a crash helmet.
Even 3" belts on a 6 point harness can stretch suprisingly far which can be seen in crash photos. Chances are on the road a driver will not be wearing a helmet and will not be as securely strapped in as a driver on a track.
In other words you are more likely to be injured in a minor to medium severity road crash if you have a roll cage.
To a certain extent the roll cage is a compromise even for track use, it's trading possible injury from body parts hitting the cage inside the car vs keeping the safety cell intact and preventing the driver getting crushed by the car shell coming inwards after hitting a barrier or another car.
I guess on balance i would rather risk a broken arm on the cage vs getting crushed - on track though not on a road.

Posted: **Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:23 pm**

that was unreal

Posted: **Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:28 pm**

WHOA!!! that was intense! im going for a lie down....

Posted: **Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:12 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:36 am**

Thats gotta hurt.

Posted: **Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:48 am**

That's some crash there....testement to the guys who put the cars together...

Pal

Posted: **Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:02 pm**

that was a serious roll! i saw the prop and the engine rolling about! glad the guy walked away!

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:17 am**

Amazing, absolutley amazing.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:57 pm**

Jesus!! Thats wild. Glad they got out ok though. Shows how good rollcages are.

Posted: **Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:55 pm**

man that really got to hurt

what a waste!!

Posted: **Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:11 pm**

With all my mods to my 318iS track car, my insurance company charged me an extra 5 pounds a year.

Switch companies dude. I was with More Than.

Posted: **Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:19 pm**

Geeman wrote:With all my mods to my 318iS track car, my insurance company charged me an extra 5 pounds a year.

Switch companies dude. I was with More Than.

Who u with now then?
and what sort o mods u done to it,got my eye on an old 325 for the track and need to get a rough estimate on insurance costs

Posted: **Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:45 pm**

i also like the little nudge the beemer gets to put it into that situation, hope that driver got his head done in for causing that, could have been MUCH worse.

Posted: **Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:23 pm**

That was one bad crash but why was there a hill on the grass area!!
You can see he had sorted the car out ready to join back in the race not expecting a f*cking jump infront of him, what f*cking twat's!!!

And as for the Merc driver, i hope he got a slap for that.....................f*cking bad loser!!!

Posted: **Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:31 pm**

fookin hell

thats one way to strip a car

Posted: **Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:22 pm**

CraigG wrote:i also like the little nudge the beemer gets to put it into that situation, hope that driver got his head done in for causing that, could have been MUCH worse.

At the very least he should be made to pay for the repairs.

Don't get me started on the actions of the marshals (or the lack of). Makes me ashamed to call myself one.

Posted: **Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:40 am**

thats one badass crash, just imagine the lovely feeling of fuel, oil and stuff running down your back when your trying to get out. then just to make things worse, the marshalls are telling you the car is going to catch fire....NICE.

check this vid out aswell, pretty bad multi car F1 pile up....

http://www.nearlygood.com/video/bigf1crash.html

Posted: **Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:42 pm**

Amazine that someone could walk away from that

Posted: **Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:14 pm**

where were teh marshalls - didnt see anyone running towards him to help. also why not red flags straight away ?

Posted: **Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:41 pm**

Lucky to get outta that !!

I don't think that's a Merc that nudged him. Is it a Pontiac Gran Pix??

Posted: **Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:12 pm**

mudskipper wrote: check this vid out aswell, pretty bad multi car F1 pile up....
http://www.nearlygood.com/video/bigf1crash.html

How did I just know that was gonna be Belgium from a few years back when you mentioned F1. Only 6 cars (those at the front) escaped the incident out of 20 cars.

Posted: **Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:23 pm**

JCB wrote:where were teh marshalls - didnt see anyone running towards him to help. also why not red flags straight away ?

It's the american way. A mobile team will drive round the circuit to get to the incident. Great for oval racing where everything's nearby and 4 teams can cover a whole circuit quite well. Circuit racing needs proper marshalling, because of incidents like this. How long did they leave him in the car? 30 seconds, a minute, 5 minutes? Over here there'd be someone at the incident within 30 seconds, and rescue crew if required after 90.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:04 pm**

mudskipper wrote: check this vid out aswell, pretty bad multi car F1 pile up....
http://www.nearlygood.com/video/bigf1crash.html

i remeber that one, was watching it live, i PMSL !!

Posted: **Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:57 pm**

is it me or was that bm still running when it stopped rolling?

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