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The baby is home
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:33 pm
by bab-91
I've been looking at these for a while but there isn't a great deal to choose from. I was hoping for a bit of help, seeing as many of you seem to be in the trade.
I'm ideally looking at something along the lines of..
5 Door Hatchback
123d M sport
Black Leather
Black paint, not a must but preferred.
4-5 years old max
40-50,000 miles max
Dealer warranty**
Big ask? Is there anything I should be looking out for?
Thanks in advance!

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:43 pm
by hennabm
N47 engine. That is all.
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:56 pm
by bab-91
hennabm wrote:N47 engine. That is all.
I've read a lot of horror stories but having driven the 123d, I've fallen in love... despite them being ugly as sin.
If it needs a chain every 100k, its not the end of the world..
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:49 pm
by pacerpete
bab-91 wrote:hennabm wrote:N47 engine. That is all.
I've read a lot of horror stories but having driven the 123d, I've fallen in love... despite them being ugly as sin.
If it needs a chain every 100k, its not the end of the world..
It is if / when it snaps/ jumps beforehand

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:56 pm
by bss325i
Just change it before it snaps when it gets noisy.
It's the only real issue with the N47 as other than that it's a great engine.... for a stinky diesel.
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:01 pm
by bab-91
bss325i wrote: for a stinky diesel.
I completely agree
Always said I would never go back to diesels but needs must.
I'm hoping for a turd to appear in "BMW approved used cars" but it's just awash with 116d's etc.

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:09 pm
by bss325i
Buy from the mainland?
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:13 pm
by bss325i
5dr 123d's are quite rare.
Only 3 nation wide on BMW AUC site and only one of them M sport.
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:13 pm
by bab-91
bss325i wrote:Buy from the mainland?
5dr 123d's are quite rare.
Only 3 nation wide on BMW AUC site and only one of them M sport.
Yea, I'd imagine so. The chances of one appearing over here, in the spec I want, is nil.
Is that the Space Grey one? I think it had cloth seats (being a fussy coont)
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:45 pm
by Blitz
Why a 1 series?
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:14 pm
by bab-91
Blitz wrote:Why a 1 series?
Fits the bill. 3 series is too big for my needs and if I see another 320d, I might just kill myself.
The VAG stuff was overpriced and under spec'ed imo and the A class is out of my budget and I don't fancy spending a kings ransom on a Renault engine.
o and the 123d made me giggle. Definitely wasn't expecting it to be as fun as it was.
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:28 pm
by bss325i
Yes it was the space grey one.
Does it have to be 5dr?
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:29 pm
by bab-91
bss325i wrote:Yes it was the space grey one.
Does it have to be 5dr?
Unfortunately yes, I look after 2 of my elderly relatives.
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:33 pm
by bss325i
You don't want a 1 series then. Rear seat room is poor and the entry is not great either.
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:35 pm
by hennabm
I agree with Barry on the rear room.
As the overall size of a first gen 1 is about E30 then you can imagine the room (or lack of it) in the rear.
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:35 pm
by bab-91
We've already had her in and out of it.
My Great Aunt is tiny, think 'Michael D. Higgins' level of tiny.

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:49 pm
by rh306
bab-91 wrote:We've already had her in and out of it.
My Great Aunt is tiny, think 'Michael D. Higgins' level of tiny.

I'm sure Aunty would rather be chauffeured around in this
http://www.attingtonclassics.co.uk/moto ... w-e3-2500/
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:55 pm
by bab-91
STOPPP!
I want one so badly but it wouldn't survive the drive to Roscommon or Cavan

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:58 pm
by anothere21323i
Sadly that particular E3 is not quite all it seems....
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:35 am
by pacerpete
bab-91 wrote:bss325i wrote:Yes it was the space grey one.
Does it have to be 5dr?
Unfortunately yes, I am grooming 2 of my elderly relatives and I have to regularly drive them to the bank
You cad !

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:54 pm
by bab-91
pacerpete wrote:bab-91 wrote:bss325i wrote:Yes it was the space grey one.
Does it have to be 5dr?
Unfortunately yes, I am grooming 2 of my elderly relatives and I have to regularly drive them to the bank
You cad !

Aha, I Fookin wish
I'd love to be left the 'farm'.. just to annoy her useless-theiving-bastarting coont of a son.
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:48 pm
by Andyboy
They're a great car and they go really well, but a chain job is £1200 assuming the crank is okay. A LOT more if it breaks.
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:14 pm
by bab-91
Andyboy wrote:They're a great car and they go really well, but a chain job is £1200 assuming the crank is okay. A LOT more if it breaks.
All this talk of breaking chains is worrying

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:21 pm
by hennabm
Try babybmw website and BMW problems and look for N47.
They reckon that there are only a few compared with the number of N47 built. They also reckon oil changes around 7k help.
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:08 pm
by bss325i
The N47 has got to have been the engine sold in the biggest quantities in the UK for several years now.
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:19 pm
by bab-91
bss325i wrote:The N47 has got to have been the engine sold in the biggest quantities in the UK for several years now.
I had thought something along them lines. It is in so many different models, if they were THAT bad I would have heard people screaming on NI-BMW
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:33 pm
by c_b
I had a E87 130i, wasn't too bad to be honest and it was very quick. Its not very spacious at the back and the boot space wasnt that great either, but the engine was great

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:04 pm
by Gert_8
My brother bought one of these, on the basis it was small enough for his wife to drive. She never actually drove it, so it went and was replaced by the new 3 series.
The 5 door version is pretty ugly, but it felt okay to drive and it was relatively practical.
I like to think he manned up...!!

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:31 pm
by bab-91
Manned up? Says the chap mincing around in a VAG AWD turd!

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:45 pm
by Gert_8
Oi! You've forgotten my cab!!

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:01 pm
by pacerpete
bab-91 wrote:Manned up? Says the chap mincing around in a VAG AWD turd!

When you need to regularly deliver a large load to the Highlands, AWD has its uses..........

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:05 pm
by Gert_8
Hahahahah!!

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:15 pm
by bab-91
Verde is not large, you could carry his unconscious body under one arm whilst piloting a Vespa.
I'm playing with the idea of going for the 3 door and pressing the Werther's 190 into family duty. I have my original search saved on AUC so I'll see what happens.
Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:16 pm
by Gert_8
The large load Pete was referring to, definitely is not Verde.

Re: 1 Series hunt
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:18 pm
by pacerpete
I'm not talking about Verde, but what Gert would be bringing him.......
PS When did you get caked ? I thought you were a penniless Ashtray driving peasant !
