E30 Zone

Stunning!

Tis nice.

Interior isn't my cup of tea but I strangely like the digital instrument cluster. Considering it's aftermarket it looks fantastic!

Reminds me of the MK2 Golf digifizz digital cluster.... nice

Damn I need that in my life!

ross_jsy wrote:Damn I need that in my life!

Be more fun to built one... but find an early E21?

I prefer this shape (2 headlights rather than 4).

I spend too much of my life building my car, sometimes I just hanker after a turd that's done

For £10k I would have an immaculate E21 323i LE with 40k mileage and Concours champion which was for sale recently.

ross_jsy wrote:I spend too much of my life building my car, sometimes I just hanker after a turd that's done

I'm hankering for another rusty turd to take apart

Come work on mine? You can sleep in the spare room

ross_jsy wrote:Come work on mine? You can sleep in the spare room

As the actress said to the bishop....

pony wrote:For £10k I would have an immaculate E21 323i LE with 40k mileage and Concours champion which was for sale recently.

Moseleys was for sale not long ago, not sure if it sold or not

Unusual to find an E21 freak who hasn't removed the front bumper.

Andyboy wrote:Unusual to find an E21 freak who hasn't removed the front bumper.

Pet hate of mine, fine for a track car, street car just no.

Safe to say mine is staying on.

daimlerman wrote:

ross_jsy wrote:Come work on mine? You can sleep in the spare room

As the actress said to the bishop....

Still tempted!

pony wrote:For £10k I would have an immaculate E21 323i LE with 40k mileage and Concours champion which was for sale recently.

For once I agree with pony !

If I was ever stupid and or high enough on drugs to pay 10 bags for an E21 ... It wouldn't be on a modded 316 from Bradford ! Fair foooks to the guy for blowing his wad on a once horrid turd and making his dream come true etc...but getting a refund on his project will be hard unless he finds an equally delusional victim? eek:

Surely 10k is e21 C1-b6 territory ?

I wouldn't be high to spend 10 bags on concours E21 323i LE
Is a bargain as likely to increase in value

The same people who said that about the e30 m3 missed out on that by selling at low price

but its not all about money ever thought about that pony?!

Is E21 323i LE Concours don't get much cooler than that!
Especially for £10k

I'd rather spend £10k on something I could drive and enjoy. Not everyone sees cars as something to keep pristine and factory and never driven.

For £10k I can think of a lot of cars I could actually enjoy instead of spending y weekends polishing tyre treads.

You can get a Porsche 911 or Maserati for not much more than £10k but who in the Zone has the balls and the wallet to do that ?

ive ran a the e34 bi turbo and those cars certainly won't be any worse than that for running costs

pony wrote:You can get a Porsche 911 or Maserati for not much more than £10k but who in the Zone has the balls and the wallet to do that ?

I think everyone on the zone that could has enough sense not to touch the 10k festering turd remains of a 50-80k car that will only ever be a money pit and negative return.


Its a very tidy car, but for 10k he is trying to sell the modifications rather than the car.

He might get it but only from someone who wants a modified 316.

Early/pre facelift cars are getting hard to find now, even ones with holes in are not easy to find for the right money.

Many many rotten turds out there making me glad mine is reasonably solid, better than a lot of e30/36s at least.

pony wrote:You can get a Porsche 911 or Maserati for not much more than £10k but who in the Zone has the balls and the wallet to do that ?

A decent 996 911 won't cost any more to run than a decent e46 m3. If I could justify one I'd happily have a nice clean facelift manual c2. I'd love a Maserati 3200gt too and wouldn't let running cost rumours put me off.

For four years I ran a notoriously unreliable and expensive to run delta integrale as an everyday car, doing 20,000 or so miles a year. There aren't many cars out there I wouldn't take a punt on given the chance.

There's more to life than keeping a turd polished in the hope it maintains or even increases in value.

harry_p wrote:
A decent 996 911 won't cost any more to run than a decent e46 m3.

A decent 996? Was there ever such a beast?

The trouble with 996's is that the engine is very flawed and it's not a case of if it will require a 5-10k rebuild, but when. Plus they just look like old 1998 toss now and have Mark 4 Golf build quality, penny pinched and cost pared to buggery.

10 grand for an E21 or any description = no ta. I had 323i's when they were £350 auction fodder, and they're no faster in 2014. They were replaced in 1982 by something much better.

Horah the E30!

e21s are crap

pony wrote:You can get a Porsche 911 or Maserati for not much more than £10k but who in the Zone has the balls and the wallet to do that ?

More than you think. Many, many zoners are well to do and have the good manners not to boast about it. (I'm not one of them )

One member is on the hunt for an early 911.

Andyboy wrote:

harry_p wrote:
A decent 996 911 won't cost any more to run than a decent e46 m3.

A decent 996? Was there ever such a beast?

The trouble with 996's is that the engine is very flawed and it's not a case of if it will require a 5-10k rebuild, but when. Plus they just look like old 1998 toss now and have Mark 4 Golf build quality, penny pinched and cost pared to buggery.

10 grand for an E21 or any description = no ta. I had 323i's when they were £350 auction fodder, and they're no faster in 2014. They were replaced in 1982 by something much better.

But the appeal of the E21 323i LE is is goes sideways more early than E30 325i
I always loved the E30 looks instead of E21 323i looks. Do think the E21 has come of age

bab-91 wrote:

pony wrote:You can get a Porsche 911 or Maserati for not much more than £10k but who in the Zone has the balls and the wallet to do that ?

More than you think. Many, many zoners are well to do and have the good manners not to boast about it. (I'm not one of them )

One member is on the hunt for an early 911.

That will be all the E30 M3 owners then
I was just under that impression because everyone is so tight when it comes to buying and selling cars and just in general

harry_p wrote:

pony wrote:You can get a Porsche 911 or Maserati for not much more than £10k but who in the Zone has the balls and the wallet to do that ?

A decent 996 911 won't cost any more to run than a decent e46 m3. If I could justify one I'd happily have a nice clean facelift manual c2. I'd love a Maserati 3200gt too and wouldn't let running cost rumours put me off.

For four years I ran a notoriously unreliable and expensive to run delta integrale as an everyday car, doing 20,000 or so miles a year. There aren't many cars out there I wouldn't take a punt on given the chance.

There's more to life than keeping a turd polished in the hope it maintains or even increases in value.

The only 996s I like are

996.2 C2 40th Anniversary Special Limited Edition 1964 examples worldwide £16k plus
This essentially is C2 with lots of options as standard including power pack which power from 320bhp to 345bhp

996.2 Targa Manual £12k plus
Grey
Star fish alloys
Sports Exhaust
LSD
BOSE

996 Turbo Manual
Grey


Maserati 4200 Coupe £12k plus or Grande Sporte Coupe £25-40k

Hi everyone. That's my e21 for sale. If anyone is genuinely interested and would like a closer look, I'll be at the fuelled society show on Sunday at nostell priory.

Thanks

e30topless wrote:

pony wrote:For £10k I would have an immaculate E21 323i LE with 40k mileage and Concours champion which was for sale recently.

For once I agree with pony !

If I was ever stupid and or high enough on drugs to pay 10 bags for an E21 ... It wouldn't be on a modded 316 from Bradford ! Fair foooks to the guy for blowing his wad on a once horrid turd and making his dream come true etc...but getting a refund on his project will be hard unless he finds an equally delusional victim? eek:

Surely 10k is e21 C1-b6 territory ?

Even if you could find a C1 for sale, you wouldn't even be close at £10k. Set your sights on a B6 (again, finding one would be tough) and you'll be looking at £25k+. Even average condition E21 values have started to climb in the past year, especially 323i.

This sold recently and have seen a couple of Baur 323i make similar money in the past few weeks.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1398107

Nigel Moseley's 323 is a bargain at £10k but the colour may put off the originality freaks?! I know someone was viewing last weekend though, so may well be sold.

The tough thing with selling any modified car, is the fact it'll be to the builders taste and maybe not everyone else's? I still think this car is well worth the cost, as it's a lot more than an old 316 with an M52 shoehorned in.

Forget about about the E21 323i. Where are the pre-facelift 2 door 325i's gone.

pony wrote:

Andyboy wrote:

harry_p wrote:
A decent 996 911 won't cost any more to run than a decent e46 m3.

A decent 996? Was there ever such a beast?

The trouble with 996's is that the engine is very flawed and it's not a case of if it will require a 5-10k rebuild, but when. Plus they just look like old 1998 toss now and have Mark 4 Golf build quality, penny pinched and cost pared to buggery.

10 grand for an E21 or any description = no ta. I had 323i's when they were £350 auction fodder, and they're no faster in 2014. They were replaced in 1982 by something much better.

But the appeal of the E21 323i LE is is goes sideways more early than E30 325i

That's not an appeal, it's a liability. Not bad in the dry with LSD, proper suspension and tyres but horrid in the wet. I ran two 323i's back in the day, okay but nothing a 325i can't sort out.