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m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:50 pm
by sx_pete
hi ya'al
right i want to do an m50 engine conversion on my bmw compact
but i've been told that because my car is 1999 (v reg) that is obd2 and a m50 engine is obd1so it's not possible ( i think it's some thing to do with wiring not sure).
My problem is I've seen it done
can anyone give in any help/input if this is true
thanks in advance
Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:15 pm
by HairyScreech
It is possible, however it's not worth it. I am sure he is referring to EWS rather than OBD as obd will make no odds.
As you have EWSII you can go for an m52b28 of the same age and just swap all of the EWSII components over from the donor car, an m50 conversion would mean converting back to an older version of the imobliser and actually a 2.8 m52 is a better choice.
Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:28 pm
by DanThe
The EWS is easily dealt with if its a later vanos engine, apart from that its just a case of bridging 2 wires
Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:41 pm
by leeparkes
Being a late 99 car it will be EWS3
Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:40 pm
by sx_pete
so if i fit ecu, loom, engine, box, something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-Vanos- ... 4ac59a46c7
and then got the ews deleted off the ecu
plug and play?
i know you guys are right in the m52 being a little better easier
i want the m50 for a turbo project as i still have most bits from my 200sx
Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:44 pm
by BATTS91
like said above your car will probably be ews3 .
better off with m52b28!
and you will have ews issues if you dont know what your doing to cut and shut them , its not as simple as putting an m52 with ews into an e30 .
I do know someone that can offer his services to correct this for you depending on your location .
Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:19 pm
by leeparkes
iirc it will be an easier swap with an early M50 as EWS wont be involved, ie nothing to stop the engine running.
If EWS is an issue could it be run on E36 323i management? in theory there both 2.5 litre vanos engines.

Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:50 pm
by sx_pete
BATTS91 wrote:
I do know someone that can offer his services to correct this for you depending on your location .
location = Warrington n/w of England cheers
Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:53 pm
by Rav335uk
Why bother???

Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:00 am
by leeparkes
sx_pete wrote:
i want the m50 for a turbo project

Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:02 am
by Rav335uk
leeparkes wrote:sx_pete wrote:
i want the m50 for a turbo project

M30 prduces better Turbo results on standard internals, a proven 500 BHP

Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:03 am
by leeparkes
Its going in a compact Rav.

Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:07 am
by Rav335uk
and.......
I would like to see something different Lee rather than "run of the mill" in a compact.

Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:50 am
by DanThe
sx_pete wrote:so if i fit ecu, loom, engine, box, something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-Vanos- ... 4ac59a46c7
and then got the ews deleted off the ecu
plug and play?
i know you guys are right in the m52 being a little better easier
i want the m50 for a turbo project as i still have most bits from my 200sx
That will be a non EWS engine already, you wont need to touch the ECU, just get the starter working and your away

Re: m50engine swap been told diffrent thing
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:34 am
by joeyb
sx_pete wrote:so if i fit ecu, loom, engine, box, something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-Vanos- ... 4ac59a46c7
and then got the ews deleted off the ecu
plug and play?
i know you guys are right in the m52 being a little better easier
i want the m50 for a turbo project as i still have most bits from my 200sx
The seller is also a zoner (if you weren't already aware)