E30 Zone

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/888706.htm

i bet they shift

why do we drive on the wrong side

What engine would be in this?

m30 turbo

3.5 i think

Interesting car, though I think it only has one turbo! More info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_E23

Yes it only has one turbo. A KKK turbo to be precise.

They are a lower compression M30 with oil squirters under the pistons and I think a few other tweaks too.
I don't think they ran a lot of boost as standard, so less than 300bhp I believe.

Still a right old wagon though!

Is it me or is that steering wheel upside down ?

I think its a pretty good price considering its rarity and that's its mint.

Blitz wrote:I think its a pretty good price considering its rarity and that's its mint.

Agreed. I am looking at that thinking the running gear needs to be lifted into my e30, followed by a wee upping of the boost.

Must stop thinking such blasphemous thoughts .....

Bet it is a right laugh to drive until the first corner where mid eighties brakes and suspension become horribly overcome by the momentum imparted by 300bhp

Martin.

MJJ_ZX6RR wrote:[ I am looking at that thinking the running gear needs to be lifted into my e30, followed by a wee upping of the boost.

Like this you mean?



Do it!

DRIFTBOY wrote:

MJJ_ZX6RR wrote:[ I am looking at that thinking the running gear needs to be lifted into my e30, followed by a wee upping of the boost.

Like this you mean?



Do it!

What does that kick out?

leeparkes wrote:

DRIFTBOY wrote:

MJJ_ZX6RR wrote:[ I am looking at that thinking the running gear needs to be lifted into my e30, followed by a wee upping of the boost.

Like this you mean?



Do it!

What does that kick out?

plenty of greenhouse gases / carbon dioxide

I'm sure PacerPetes got one of these stuck up his back passage.

Quite a barn stormer in their day!

Haha, yeah plenty of putrid, noxious gasses!

It's not been on a dyno yet but 300bhp is a fair guess, with potential for more with a decent re-map - when I can afford it.

Credit must go to Toby Unna though, it's his set up that I bought off him.

And yes, Pete does have a 745i tucked up his rear passage!

these can run much more power!

They certainly can, 650bhp is not unseen on some American websites.


Unfortunately, my wallet is only rated at about 110bhp.

Its sold.

nice car, the engine should stay were it is too, in the e23!!!

Interesting how it's called a 745 when its a 3.? I know the numbers don't mean much nowadays but they did then.
I read somewhere that they called it that cos it made 4.5 na kind of power.

redsmasher wrote:Interesting how it's called a 745 when its a 3.? I know the numbers don't mean much nowadays but they did then.
I read somewhere that they called it that cos it made 4.5 na kind of power.

the numbers are stupid these days

my mums comapct is badged a 316i but has a 1.9

the new 135i are turbo 3.0 units
the 123d are 2.0 units
335i is a 3.0 turbo

mad

Think it really took off with e36's, 323's being de-tuned 325's etc.

E32 735i / E34 535i are technically 3.4!

Didn't know that, sounds better with odd numbers on the end though.

745 name was something to do with the way they calculated the nominal cc of racing engines in the ETCC. You could have a 2 litre Turbo or a 2.8 litre NA. I think it's something like that, a factor of 1.4 on a turbo gives you the NA capacity.

Anyway, this is what a real man's 745i looks like.



and this is what's under the bonnet:-



This is the South Africam 745 with the M88. They even did an auto.

Unfortunately, my wallet is only rated at about 110bhp

So it wasnt you who had a 3.5 tourer at the first Kent meet in Ashford I went to, you only got an m40?

Alex wrote:

redsmasher wrote:Interesting how it's called a 745 when its a 3.? I know the numbers don't mean much nowadays but they did then.
I read somewhere that they called it that cos it made 4.5 na kind of power.

the numbers are stupid these days

my mums comapct is badged a 316i but has a 1.9

the new 135i are turbo 3.0 units
the 123d are 2.0 units
335i is a 3.0 turbo

mad

E90's

325i 3.0
325d 3.0
330i 3.0
330d 3.0
335i 3.0
335d 3.0

I guess its cheaper to do it that way. Also the 318i is the new 316i, the 320i is the new 318i.

robbo86 wrote:

Unfortunately, my wallet is only rated at about 110bhp

So it wasnt you who had a 3.5 tourer at the first Kent meet in Ashford I went to, you only got an m40?

That Touring belongs to Gareth who is also on here.

I have the diamond black 3.5 (well, 3.4) 2-door.
It's now turbocharged - see page one of this thread!

325i 3.0

nope

325d 3.0

and nope

your rite the facelift ones are

they used to be 2.5s

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2006-BMW-3-Series ... 240%3A1318

robbo86 wrote:

Unfortunately, my wallet is only rated at about 110bhp

So it wasnt you who had a 3.5 tourer at the first Kent meet in Ashford I went to, you only got an m40?

Are M30B35 engines really 3.4, as its rated at 3430cc?

Well if it's rounded to the nearest 100cc as is traditionally the way, then yes.

The earlier M380 in E12 / E23/ E24 are 3453cc, so they are 3.5!

The new models use 'equivalent' ratings.

118d, 120d and 123d all use the same basic 2.0 engine with different setups (123d is a twin-turbo). I know intercoolers are different between the 118d and 120d, so, it's not just a tuning job between them.
118i and 120i are both 2.0's

The 3 series world-wide is an interesting mess of models.
318d and 320d use the same engines as the 1 series, although there is no 323d - that is covered by the Alpina D3.
318i and 320i are the same engines as the 1, there was a special 320Si to homologate the touring cars.
325i, (US) 328i and 330i all use the same 3.0 basic engine in different states of tune. There was a 2.5 325i as well, and I believe this was sold as the 323i in the US. The 335i is the older 230bhp 3.0 engine with 2 turbos, and the 330i is the newer, lighter 265bhp engine.
325d, 330d and 335d are the same basic engine, with different setups, as per the 2.0.

Outgoing Z4 has 2 2.5 engines concurrently - i (175bhp) and Si (220bhp). 265bhp 3.0Si replaced the 230bhp 3.0i model.

Where it really gets confusing is:
Same engine from the 135i / 335i is used in the 740d - with slightly upped figures. Which are suspiciously close to the figures people are getting from standard 135i / 335i dyno tests (no doubt not to lose M3 sales)...

DRIFTBOY wrote:

robbo86 wrote:

Unfortunately, my wallet is only rated at about 110bhp

So it wasnt you who had a 3.5 tourer at the first Kent meet in Ashford I went to, you only got an m40?

That Touring belongs to Gareth who is also on here.

I have the diamond black 3.5 (well, 3.4) 2-door.
It's now turbocharged - see page one of this thread!

Thats it, I remember now, it wasnt gareths car as I have seen that a number of times but yours, for some reason though remember it as a touring. I also remember you saying you had left the 316 badge on to which I replied that I was the sort of muppet to fall for that

robbo86 wrote: I also remember you saying you had left the 316 badge on to which I replied that I was the sort of muppet to fall for that

You won't have been the only one!

I've had people wind down windows at trafic lights to question it's truth!

cecotto479 wrote:745 name was something to do with the way they calculated the nominal cc of racing engines in the ETCC. You could have a 2 litre Turbo or a 2.8 litre NA. I think it's something like that, a factor of 1.4 on a turbo gives you the NA capacity.

Correct about the 1.4 figure ~~~~ oem engine size in the beginning was 3.2 x 1.4 = 4.5 later cars had 3.5 but same output was :: 252 bhp and 280 lbs/ft tq or 380 nm

the engine had the code M106 C.R. of 7.2 with oilcooled piston
aircooled exhaust manifolf and blablabla,, in 1980 when 745 was launched the MB 500SE had absolutly no chance to follow this quick ladyshark on the AUTOBAHN,, in these days this was stunning performance,, and the car pulled forward in a rush that 252 hp was not able to do
very strange number that BMW gave on the hp scale

a friend of mine had one , (( there was 4 cars imported to Iceland 3 almost new and 1 later ))
when the 750 was launched up for a sprint ,, it could not follow
750 was also a LOT HEAVIER
damned fast these 745

IMO on of the greatest car BMW have ever buildt and very very underrestemated..
True performance limousine and was ahead before the E28 M5
took the Sport-limousine title with brave later