alpinas

[munky30]

How many different alpina bmw's have there been, what are they called, and what was done to them over the standard cars?

[Simon13]

how long is a piece of string! they've been going over 40 years and have done quite alot!

[munky30]

I know, thats why I wanted to know lol. Its a challenge to the collective bmw knowledge of the zone.

[orangecurry]

Collective? Makes the 'zone sound like the Borg....

Resistance (to anything Brianmoooore says) is futile.

[stuartgallafant]

there are far too many to list, and some of them, none of us will know about, as we didnt get every Alpina BMW in England

[munky30]

C1 - E21

B6 - E21

C1 - E30

C2 - E30

B3 - E30

B3 - E36

B8 - E36

B3 - E46

B3s - E46

B7 - E12

B7 - E28

B9 - E28

B10 - E28

B10 - E34

B10 - E39

D10 - E39

B7 - E24

B9 - E24

B10 - E24

B11 - E32

B12 - E32

B12 - E38

B12 - E31

RLE

RV8

RoadsterS - E85



Ho hum.... did I miss many?

[Speedtouch]

They're not very imaginative with their model nomenclature, are they?

[stuartgallafant]

simain, you missed the E30 B6, E39 B10 V8s (different to the normal B10), E60 B5, E90 and E91 D3, E60 B6, E65 B12...

as i said, there are so many of the bloody things. if you really wanna know, just go and do a google search

[munky30]

I did, lol. Its more of a bored saturday night/rainy sunday when I want to be fixing my car but cant sort of thing, not exactly a pressing need to know, just wondering.

[Simon13]

you missed loads!

Lets start with what would you like to know?

[munky30]

erm, everything, lol.

I'm just interested in alpinas and their history. I know they have made some insane cars such as the b10 bi turbo and B12 (late model ones are my favourite cars of all time), but it seems they made some fairly tame ones with just cosmetic changes too.

The cosmetic ones I'm not really interested in, but would like to know what engines/power output the 'proper' alpinas had.... Also what people consider as 'the best' alpina(s)....

[maxfield]

I can tell you the roadsterS is an awesome car the looks the power the back end would step at 3k in 2nd with michelin pilot cups on a red hot summers day in spain without being on full throttle.

[Simon13]

E36 B8 4.6 V8 is a serious weapon also, as are the oldskool B7 turbos fitted to the E28's and E24's back in the day.

an E30 B6 shifts too with 261 brake to play with.

Alpina started out in the early 60's by the man himself Burkard Bovespien. Back then the 1500 neu klass saloon was a bit tame with 80bhp. He made a twin webber conversion for his own one which boosted it to 90bhp and really brought the engine to life. He went to bmw with it to for endorsement, which he got and the icing on the cake was when his car was featured in a major motor mag. The rest is history!

He then was swamped with too much work for himself to do on his own so he took on 8 blokes and a loan from bmw to really kick start it. Then racing improves the breed so alpina went racing, ended up after 10 or so years as the factory works team and many, many titles to their names. He then took the company in a different direction in the late 70's by deciding to make complete re done performance bmw's and stopped racing. So in 78 the first 3 offical models appeared the B7 turbos in the 5 and 6 series and the E21 B6 with a 2.8 M30 in it. They also aquired all the TUV gumf to become a car manufacturer in their own right. Then the 80's really saw them take off with succesful models such as the C2 2.7 and E34 B10's. Bovespien has deliberately kept production numbers down to keep the resale values high and keep them exclusive,bespoke, rare sought after cars!

There's alot more to it than this but thats roughly how it happened from how i read it

hth

[billgatese30]

have a look here

http://www.alpina-automobiles.com/en/index.php

[tristan325]

C1 - E21

B6 - E21

C1 - E30

C2 - E30

B3 - E30

B3 - E36

B8 - E36

B3 - E46

B3s - E46

B7 - E12

B7 - E28

B9 - E28

B10 - E28

B10 - E34

B10 - E39

D10 - E39

B7 - E24

B9 - E24

B10 - E24

B11 - E32

B12 - E32

B12 - E38

B12 - E31

RLE

RV8

RoadsterS - E85



Ho hum.... did I miss many?

Yup!

B2.5 E36
B2.8 E28

Plus loads of other ones that not even I know about.

[Simon13]

those last 2 Tristan are sytner specials and are regarded as not the real deal!

[zaust]

This is the types and amount of each registered in the uk only. Weather they are on the road or even worthy I can't say.

ALPINA 2002 [1]
ALPINA A4S [1]
ALPINA B10 [216]
ALPINA B11 [8]
ALPINA B12 [35]
ALPINA B2 [11]
ALPINA B3 [181]
ALPINA B5 [17]
ALPINA B6 [18]
ALPINA B7 [20]
ALPINA B8 [21]
ALPINA B9 [18]
ALPINA BMW SA [2]
ALPINA C1 [4]
ALPINA C2 [17]
ALPINA D10 [3]
ALPINA D3 [11]
ALPINA RLE [1]
ALPINA Roadster [32]

[Cabrio]

Zaust...with the DVLA records guess C2 may or may not include 2.5 and 2.7 combined....as the Sytner may not be registered as C2s...just a thought

Well done though mate...were you bored at work when it p....d down today....speak soon

[zaust]

lol. na just ckecked alp uk..

[Simon13]

those figures can't be true! 17 C2's?! if they are i'm a happy man

[zaust]

I thought that was low too. Might be worth sticking in the garadge for a few years..

[nickso]

those figures can't be true! 17 C2's?! if they are i'm a happy man

the c1's cant be right either.....does that include the e21 versions?.....must be more than that.

[munky30]

why so many b10's?!

[Cabrio]

Might be worth finding out how it is broke down and why etc...as got to be more C2 2.5 /2.7 cabs and coupe version than that ...but Alpina say it they must have some basis....just need to work what it is and how out of date
....Zaust is it worth an email!!! I some mates with C2s that would be interested

[bss325i]

Check out the www.thealpinaregister.com

[Simon13]

So i understand it Sytners built 160 RHD C2 2.7's of all body types and including chromebumper models. Which again seems to many seeing as they only 400 or so for the rest of the world! It would seem then that the UK was a massive market for them if this was true

Did you know sytners built the first ever C2 2.7 before the main factory buchloe!

[madspikes]

thanks for the history lesson it was very nice as i seen the car that i wonted since i was a kid!

[madspikes]

why did they not do the z3 ?