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Scratch swirls in the laquer?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:51 pm
by stephenw
Hi to all readers and thank you in advance for any advice.

I have a tourer with mauritius blue metallic paint. I washed the car then gave it a t-cut then a polish with turtles blue polish as there seemed still to be swirl type scratches still all over the body and I thought a polish with added colour might fill small scratches. the marks are still there though, which you can see up close and especially in sunlight, but not from a distance.
Can I get a deeper cutting compound and would it work? or could cleaning with a clay bar help as I have never used one? or am I wasting my time!
i.e. my laquer or paint is too badly scratched and would need a respray if I wanted a better paint finish.
the swirling scratches only look to be in the laquer though not deep into the paint.

Re: Scratch swirls in the laquer?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:19 pm
by e30den
machine polishing can sort that out or at least make an improvement.

Re: Scratch swirls in the laquer?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:50 pm
by d6dph
Machine polishing can improve it, if it is done by someone who knows what they are doing.

Someone who doesn't can easily cause more damage.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:29 pm
by stephenw
HI, are you talking about a polisher that anyone can buy in a car spares shop or a specialist expensive trade one..with perhaps a higher spin speed and specialist pads...I was just wondering wether to buy the polisher and chemicals myself?

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:56 pm
by d6dph
The ones you can buy in halfords etc are pretty crap tbh, Not enough grunt to be able do paint correction.

The pro kits like the Porter cables and Meguiars G220 are very good but a bit of a skilled job. I'm looking to invest in a G220 and will be paying a detailer to give me a days tuition on it.

Can you get any pictures of the swirls (not easy to photo I know)

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:02 pm
by schuey
A porter cable would be a good bet if you fancy doing it yourself.(I take it the meguairs G220 is their rip off of the PC?).
I use a rotary polisher as you get better results and it doesnt shake your arms off! However as mentioned above an amateur will cause chaos with one,I use one everyday,but still damage fresh paint from time to time :roll:

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:17 pm
by d6dph
G220 is the megs version yes. Less vibration is the biggest improvement and it is 240v so negates the need for a heavy bulky transformer :)

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:30 pm
by schuey
Sounds good,I wanted a PC but a freind got one and the vibration did my head in! As you say carting a transformer around is a blag too. How much is the G220?

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:36 pm
by cypriot_boy_2k7
the kit is £199.99 inc. vat

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:50 pm
by d6dph
G200's are starting around £150. I deal with meguiars at my work so will be getting one a lot cheaper :D

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:51 pm
by Alex
them swirling scratches are caused by carwashes :D :D

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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:45 pm
by Moz
I used Sonus swirlbuster polish, by hand, 3 times and it got rid of most of my swirls from my E46 (Topaz Blue).

Takes some effort though. Not too expensive though, works great with the Sonus DeWunder pads.

Moz

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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:01 pm
by e30den
moz you must have arms like popeye lol.

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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:09 pm
by Moz
Notwhere near. Took some effort though, bought a cheap polisher though now so next waxing (MArch) should be a lot easier.