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Fitting 9 x 16s

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:25 pm
by kam325itouring
Hi all,

Im thinking about 9x16 cr7 wheels on my touring but my question is will they go straight on or do you need to do any modifications????

kam

Re: Fitting 9 x 16s

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:20 am
by oze30
Roll your arches?? What offset are they?

Re: Fitting 9 x 16s

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:49 am
by aceraf
Depends on drop, but arches will definately need to be rolled.

My Borbet T's (9x16 all round) are on without spacers. Apparently the previous owner made a dent in the outer shocker casing (where the wheel would've cought) and has made enough clearance for the wheels to go on without spacers.

I'm going to be changing my wheels over today (hopefully) to get my borbets cleaned up and will try and get some pics taken (if i remember).

My brother has Borbet A's on his cab, and that does have spacers, and rides like a dog, so the choice is yours whether you want to risk the dent or have a shite ride :?

Re: Fitting 9 x 16s

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:04 am
by kam325itouring
et15, 215/40/16 tyres. aceraf how big was the dent on the shock???, i am thinking of coilovers too :twisted: and deck it!!!!! or a 60mm drop its on 35mm at the mo.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:21 pm
by jaburna
No fender rolling needed.. I have 9x16 et 15 borbet A's on my cab with Eiback pro's. No rubbing or scraping. And Im sure my cab sits lower than your touring. If you want to get spacers, get 5 mm in front to clear struts and 10mm in the rear to even out the trac.. Even then you shouldn't have roll fenders..

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:54 pm
by aceraf
My touring doesn't catch as i have no spacers and i'm pretty sure my rear is only a 45mm drop.

My bro's cab had 60mm all round and you couldn't get more than 2 people in the car!

He's now on 40mm and still catches with 2 in the back.

The dent on the shocker casing wasn't that big. I've got a pic uploading, it's not great, but shows it. Basicly just knock it in a bit where the wheel scrapes.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:00 pm
by aceraf
Image

not great, but gives you an idea of how small the dent needs to be.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:54 pm
by kam325itouring
thats not that bad i was thinking alot worse, aceraf thanks for the info dude. have you got stopped with the wheel protruding out of the front arch???

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:18 pm
by Dan320is
aceraf wrote:My touring doesn't catch as i have no spacers and i'm pretty sure my rear is only a 45mm drop.

My bro's cab had 60mm all round and you couldn't get more than 2 people in the car!

He's now on 40mm and still catches with 2 in the back.

The dent on the shocker casing wasn't that big. I've got a pic uploading, it's not great, but shows it. Basicly just knock it in a bit where the wheel scrapes.
The springs on your car are a Apex 60mm drop as they used to be on my touring before Player6 put them on there.

I have 9x16's et15 on my IS and they went straight on without spacers or a 'dent'.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:18 pm
by aceraf
kam325itouring wrote:thats not that bad i was thinking alot worse, aceraf thanks for the info dude. have you got stopped with the wheel protruding out of the front arch???
Never had a problem.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:20 pm
by aceraf
Dan325iSport wrote:
aceraf wrote:My touring doesn't catch as i have no spacers and i'm pretty sure my rear is only a 45mm drop.

My bro's cab had 60mm all round and you couldn't get more than 2 people in the car!

He's now on 40mm and still catches with 2 in the back.

The dent on the shocker casing wasn't that big. I've got a pic uploading, it's not great, but shows it. Basicly just knock it in a bit where the wheel scrapes.
The springs on your car are a Apex 60mm drop as they used to be on my touring before Player6 put them on there.

I have 9x16's et15 on my IS and they went straight on without spacers or a 'dent'.
I think they've been changed at some point as i can see from the rear tyres (due to the wear on the side wall) that the arch did used to catch at some point, but they're now clear enough, and enough room to fit my fingers in!

That and the fact my rear can't be a 60mm drop...just not low enough, i think my front is 60mm but not the rear.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:38 pm
by Dan320is
aceraf wrote:
Dan325iSport wrote:
aceraf wrote:My touring doesn't catch as i have no spacers and i'm pretty sure my rear is only a 45mm drop.

My bro's cab had 60mm all round and you couldn't get more than 2 people in the car!

He's now on 40mm and still catches with 2 in the back.

The dent on the shocker casing wasn't that big. I've got a pic uploading, it's not great, but shows it. Basicly just knock it in a bit where the wheel scrapes.
The springs on your car are a Apex 60mm drop as they used to be on my touring before Player6 put them on there.

I have 9x16's et15 on my IS and they went straight on without spacers or a 'dent'.
I think they've been changed at some point as i can see from the rear tyres (due to the wear on the side wall) that the arch did used to catch at some point, but they're now clear enough, and enough room to fit my fingers in!

That and the fact my rear can't be a 60mm drop...just not low enough, i think my front is 60mm but not the rear.
The rear tyres have wear on the side wall due to the car carrying alot of weight for one long journey (therefore touching the arch). Unless you have changed them they should still all be yellow apex springs. They are the 60mm drop springs for the touring and the convertible. My IS is lowered 60mm and I can still get my fingers in the arch.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:50 pm
by aceraf
Dan325iSport wrote:
aceraf wrote:
Dan325iSport wrote: The springs on your car are a Apex 60mm drop as they used to be on my touring before Player6 put them on there.

I have 9x16's et15 on my IS and they went straight on without spacers or a 'dent'.
I think they've been changed at some point as i can see from the rear tyres (due to the wear on the side wall) that the arch did used to catch at some point, but they're now clear enough, and enough room to fit my fingers in!

That and the fact my rear can't be a 60mm drop...just not low enough, i think my front is 60mm but not the rear.
The rear tyres have wear on the side wall due to the car carrying alot of weight for one long journey (therefore touching the arch). Unless you have changed them they should still all be yellow apex springs. They are the 60mm drop springs for the touring and the convertible. My IS is lowered 60mm and I can still get my fingers in the arch.
Have you got the same springs on your IS?

Why is my bro's cab so much lower than my touring? Both had 60mm drop, and his wheel (borbet A) was nearly under the arch :?

He's now gone to 40 or 45mm and his is still low.

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:02 am
by Dan320is
aceraf wrote:
Dan325iSport wrote:
aceraf wrote: I think they've been changed at some point as i can see from the rear tyres (due to the wear on the side wall) that the arch did used to catch at some point, but they're now clear enough, and enough room to fit my fingers in!

That and the fact my rear can't be a 60mm drop...just not low enough, i think my front is 60mm but not the rear.
The rear tyres have wear on the side wall due to the car carrying alot of weight for one long journey (therefore touching the arch). Unless you have changed them they should still all be yellow apex springs. They are the 60mm drop springs for the touring and the convertible. My IS is lowered 60mm and I can still get my fingers in the arch.
Have you got the same springs on your IS?

Why is my bro's cab so much lower than my touring? Both had 60mm drop, and his wheel (borbet A) was nearly under the arch :?

He's now gone to 40 or 45mm and his is still low.
My IS has some 60mm drop springs on it but I'm unsure of the brand without checking. I'm unsure of the weight difference between a cab' and a touring but if your bro has fitted springs that are meant for a saloon/coupe his car will definately sit lower than if it had a cab' specific spring kit fitted. I have seen your bro's car and it did look very very low, more than 60 but he was driving along a bumpy uneven road.

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:19 am
by aceraf
Dan325iSport wrote:
aceraf wrote:
Dan325iSport wrote: The rear tyres have wear on the side wall due to the car carrying alot of weight for one long journey (therefore touching the arch). Unless you have changed them they should still all be yellow apex springs. They are the 60mm drop springs for the touring and the convertible. My IS is lowered 60mm and I can still get my fingers in the arch.
Have you got the same springs on your IS?

Why is my bro's cab so much lower than my touring? Both had 60mm drop, and his wheel (borbet A) was nearly under the arch :?

He's now gone to 40 or 45mm and his is still low.
My IS has some 60mm drop springs on it but I'm unsure of the brand without checking. I'm unsure of the weight difference between a cab' and a touring but if your bro has fitted springs that are meant for a saloon/coupe his car will definately sit lower than if it had a cab' specific spring kit fitted. I have seen your bro's car and it did look very very low, more than 60 but he was driving along a bumpy uneven road.
His was a cab specific kit complete with shocks and springs.

To be honest he's not happy with that kit, and will probably change. It's fine with 7j wheels but as soon as he puts 9j on the rears catch :(

I wanted to have a look at your IS that day, but we were in a rush to get back so didn't have time. Looks a very nice example.

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:16 pm
by player6
u got to rember there is 2 sping pads im the back of the tourer i add one more coz of towing and the weight i put in it it was about 10mm thik so it only really about 50mm at the back

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:18 pm
by aceraf
player6 wrote:u got to rember there is 2 sping pads im the back of the tourer i add one more coz of towing and the weight i put in it it was about 10mm thik so it only really about 50mm at the back
I seen them today when changing the wheels over.

Do you think something like that would work on my bro's cab? I have one that i can cut in half and make about that same size.

How low do you think mine would go (in terms of wheel/tyre under the arch) if i take them out?

Will it catch on the arch?

I do sometimes have 5 people in the car, and it does get pretty low then!

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:24 pm
by player6
have u still got the bomp stops in

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:40 pm
by aceraf
player6 wrote:have u still got the bomp stops in
On mine or his?

I've still got them in on mine (if you meant the one's that are cable tied to the springs.)