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Lacquer needed on Schwarz 086?

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:21 pm
by snoops
I will be spraying an mtech kit soon as wanted to know whether I will need lacquer, my car is Scwarz (straight black) code 086, some people have said I will needit otherwise I will get the rat look and some including my local dealer have said I don't so if anyone could confirm?

Re: Lacquer needed on Schwarz 086?

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:04 pm
by BAUR335I
Depends what paint.I think that acrylic paints do not need lacquer(might be wrong) but 2k does.Shaz done his kit with aerosols but can not remember whether he used seperate lacquer,worth while having a look for his thread.

Re: Lacquer needed on Schwarz 086?

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:08 pm
by snoops
he used lacquer on his but his car is metallic isn't it? I will be using aerosol cans too from BMW

Re: Lacquer needed on Schwarz 086?

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:23 pm
by BAUR335I
Best thing to do is ring your local paint shop,most paint shops that I have dealt with have always been helpful with any queries that I have had.Is there any reason why you are getting the cans from main dealers? Paint shops can supply cans that are just as good quality wise and probably cheaper,you can also get all the other bits that you may need:scotch pads/panel wipe and all the sanding papers etc.As they only deal with paints you will find that there advice/knowledge will be a lot of help to you.

Re: Lacquer needed on Schwarz 086?

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:08 pm
by schuey
2k paint is generally direct gloss,i.e it goes on shiny,any standard basecoats will go on matt,in which case they will need lacquer,you can get gloss back in tins though,which is probably what bmw are selling you. You will use loads of it though to paint a full kit!

Re: Lacquer needed on Schwarz 086?

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:38 am
by snoops
BMW have sold me 150ml aerosol cans

Re: Lacquer needed on Schwarz 086?

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:28 pm
by snoops
bump

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Re: Lacquer needed on Schwarz 086?

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:43 pm
by aceraf
As far as i'm aware bmw will supply you with lacquer if it's needed as a package.

If they haven't, then you probably don't need it.

Re: Lacquer needed on Schwarz 086?

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:01 pm
by dips346
2 k paint is not just gloss as its any paint system that uses 2 parts ie paint and hardner so gloss and base coat is still 2k .
all spary cans are 1k (cellose) if you are using gloss jet black then no you dont need lacquer but if its a base coat black then yes
its not easy getting a good finish on black

Re: Lacquer needed on Schwarz 086?

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:30 pm
by aceraf
its not easy getting a good finish on black
Yes, it will show up any/all imperfections in your prep work so be sure it's done properly so you don't have to go back and redo it.

That said, black looks awesome when done properly!

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:02 am
by phobo19
hey im a newbie here but just noticed some questions about paint work well if anyone has any questions i would be happy to help you out as im a skilled painter and dont mind spending some time helping fellow e30 owners out

Wilko

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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:58 pm
by euan
painted various bits in same colour, 2k just means , paint , activator( 50% off paint ie 500ml paint use 250 ml activator ) and 10% thinners.
rub down then give 2 coats of laquer gently rubbing down between coats.

the aerisol cans waste of time get proper 2k paint and do it properly i tried cans years ago poor results sprayed complete vw beetle in my single width garage what i will say is move every thing out the way as noticed speckles of the paint every where end result been told by others is wow

if you need free advise doesnt matter where in the country you are phone scott paints on 01236 767666 excellent advice and products been using them for over 10 years.