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As above what do you recomend as the best music for tuning your amps/speakers.Finally completed my set up today but need something with tops as well as the deep lows for the subs.Seperate crossovers are in place to tweak it properly but I just can't find the right track.
Any sugestions??

At the moment this tune is hitting all the right notes

Timbaland has always done bass and treble but want something diffrent.

Choose a track that typifies your musical taste.

No point setting it up with some dirty drum'n'bass when you listen to metal, and vice versa.

What do you listen to most of the time?

To be honest Munky
I always get roped into listening to what the passengers want,just wanted to know if there is a tune/band that people prefer when there driving there e30.

totally addicted to bass . Its what they used to use over in Oz.

I'll try to find it.



This one!

thats what my local car audio shop use when setting the system up as it has a variety of treble and bass in it etc.

oze30 wrote:totally addicted to bass

There is hardly any proper bass in that tune, its been optimised to sound good on radios and cheap stereos like most mainstream stuff.
I usually use both Leftfield albums as they have a very broad range of tunes including some nice sweeping sub up to high mid sounds which are great for finding problems

i always use old rock as the bass lines are less compressed than modern tracks and you actually get some feeling what real base line is all about but easiest way is use led Zeplin stairway to heaven as it has all the elements a stereo requires to sound good

I personally listen to a lot of house music. I find any of the Ministry of Sound albums work a treat when tuning my systems.

listen too the 6 pot! thats music

Best to use a piece of music that you know well - or one that you know sounds good on a home system.

Most modern chart stuff is really badly recorded/mastered anyway - just set it up to how you like it!

id go with old school reggae. always use true bass guitars and real instruments. but i mean thats my personal taste. for that type of music i need a heavy bass unit to really let the depth of the music out.

try a good piece of classical. good for seting the highs and lows. clarity is best on a i,c,e install with low bass in the background. once you've got that sounding good your normall taste in music should sound great. it does depend on your set up to. ive had a bass cube in all of my cars so i can have thumping bass or mild depending on whats on

I'd say a track with good bass/treble with mids and highs would be

Gregory Isaacs - Report To Me

I was advised by a few knowledgeable peeps to use the dangerous album from michael jackson as it caters for the most frequencies balanced out on one album, not that im into wacko, i prefer a bit of ac/dc myself

Really you want a very long sweeping wave from approx 40Hz to 40kHz.

Ideally the volume at any given part of the range at the drivers position will be equal to any other.


A lot of people want pounding bass though, so really down to personal preferance.

In an old "street bass" system I built, I use 250hz as the cut-off and had far more bass than treble. It shook eyeballs and you could feel it like someone was kicking you in the car, but it didn't actually sound brilliant!

'Superfly' by Curtis Mayfield good friend off mine is a top sound engineer working at the top of his game and he swears by this tune.

a variety of music,but i find that actualy using music with true intruments, not electronic notes works best.

but you will find that some types of music may then be over powering on the trebble and then some with the base. bass is simnple, it just depends how much you like it, geting clear powerful vocals and mids is hard. its eventualy a compromise no matter what you do unless you wish to go into SQ competition.

just tune it to where you are happy with the way it sounds.

last time i set up a set up i use a combinantion of music and its set up so i'm happy with it and now no matter what CD i'm playing i'm happy with the over all sound, and just adjust the bass so its not overpowering on certain songs.

As per Munky's 1st post. You need sounds that you listen too and as above tune it to the point where your happy with it.

It's pointless tuning it to tunes other paople are suggesting, the first time you stick your music through it, chances are you'll think, "actually that don't sound as good as it did". then you'll start playing with it.

boombang wrote:Really you want a very long sweeping wave from approx 40Hz to 40kHz.

Good luck hearing anything over about 16khz!

Heyho wrote:

boombang wrote:Really you want a very long sweeping wave from approx 40Hz to 40kHz.

Good luck hearing anything over about 16khz!

20hz-22khz is about the auido range of the human ear

The top end of the scale is reduced as you get older
No point amplifying anything above 22khz or below 20hz as you won't be able to hear it anyway

And the "holy grail" of bass frequencies happens to be 33hz
just a piece of useless info for you

You used to be able to buy a set-up CD that has everything on it to test your system. I bought one when I had a reasonable system in my old 316. One track was just bass than got deeper in increments.

My neighbours were peeing me off playing crap music at 2 am so I stuck the disk in my home system turned the speakers around to face the wall and selected the bass track, cranked the bass and let it do its worse. you could feel it more than hear it, cups and glasses vibrating the lot. They got the message

The iasca/sca test cd they use in the competitions would probably be a good starting point.

Cotty wrote:My neighbours were peeing me off playing crap music at 2 am so I stuck the disk in my home system turned the speakers around to face the wall and selected the bass track, cranked the bass and let it do its worse. you could feel it more than hear it, cups and glasses vibrating the lot. They got the message

Actually sound effects CD's are also good for this. Loud music from next door really late so I put a sound effects CD in, selected the baby crying track, put it on loop and cranked it up. they turned their sounds down pretty sharpish

BadDave wrote:The iasca/sca test cd they use in the competitions would probably be a good starting point.

When I used to go to sound off's, loooooong time ago they were using The Terminator 2 soundtrack and its actually quite good for exposing weeknesses in a system.

Here's some that were suggested to me

50 cent - In da club/Heat
Dr Dre - F#ck you/Forgot about dre/What's the difference
Usher - Take your hand/Yeah
The Streets - Blinded by the light/Fit but you know it
Outkast - Hey ya/Dracula's wedding
Whacko Jacko - Unbreakable/Break of dawn

Some i have tried, some i didn't bother with



And for an A/V system
I,ROBOT - Chapter 18/you are experiancing a car accident
Blade - Chapter 3/club blood
Bad boys 2 - Chapter 7/this is what i do
Swordfish - Chapter 2/Explosively wrong move
Jurrasic park - Chapter 11/The T-REX

I've tried Blade/Bad Boys 2/Swordfish and a few others when setting up the surround sound/time alighnment

BadDave wrote:20hz-22khz is about the auido range of the human ear

I think the official upper limit is 20khz, but in practice, very few people are capable of hearing the upper 5khz or so.

BadDave wrote:The iasca/sca test cd they use in the competitions would probably be a good starting point.

Any idea where I can get hold of one of these? Tried setting it up with classical/jacko and rock.The best by far was when it was set up for the classical music which when I played most music was fine apart from drum n bass.Someone has suggested running the two subs off independent amps,setup one amp for classical which would do most music and the other for drum n bass.Personally thought this would make one speaker sound good when playing drum n bass and the other would be wrong then vice versa.Also noticed that the amp is far to powerfull for the 2 pioneer subs and have come close to popping them a few times whilst setting them up.Would this also affect the clarity of the subs?

The Iasca test disk can be found here
http://www.iascauk.com/shop.htm

I suppose you could run 2 amps, 1 for each sub and use a dual amp balancer to switch between the 2

You could try turning down the signal to the amp to help prevent them popping

BadDave wrote: I suppose you could run 2 amps, 1 for each sub and use a dual amp balancer to switch between the 2

Have not heard of one of these,what do they cost? As for the speakers nearly popping I have had to turn the gain on the amp down to just before the speakers limit.There is still loads more left on the gain which is why I am saying that it is far to powerfull,more of a waste really unless I upgrade the subs which will start the never ending "now that needs upgrading to suit it"

BAUR335I wrote:There is still loads more left on the gain

The gain is not a volume control. It's designed to match the output of the headunit to the input of the amplifier. The gain should ideally be set using an oscilloscope, and once set, should not be touched.

BAUR335I wrote:

BadDave wrote: I suppose you could run 2 amps, 1 for each sub and use a dual amp balancer to switch between the 2

Have not heard of one of these,what do they cost?

It's works something like a fader or balance control
The Alpine version is £34.99 ish
There are others avalable from Kenwood,pioneer etc

For Example
If you have 1 amp/sub set up for your Drum n Bass and the other setup for what you listen to most.

You could be listening to some Celine Dion and then decide you fancy some Drum n Bass, all you'd need to do is turn the dual amp balancer control to switch the signal to the other amp/sub combo
There's you budget dual purpose system

Check this song get a clear version of it i.e not youtube quality lol its got bass, treble and all the rest of what you need to here in a song to test your system.

Rayvon - My Bad

youtube link:

the bass will sound good wivout a dought!!!!

Jazz

BadDave wrote:The iasca/sca test cd they use in the competitions would probably be a good starting point.

Just had a look at there site and thought I wonder if there is anything on youtube,got carried away and found this:

Been in cars with some heavy bass but this takes the p**s

BAUR335I wrote:

BadDave wrote:The iasca/sca test cd they use in the competitions would probably be a good starting point.

Just had a look at there site and thought I wonder if there is anything on youtube,got carried away and found this:

Been in cars with some heavy bass but this takes the p**s

lol