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best speaker set-up ??
Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:15 pm
by TW166Y
right as many of you know i have a touring.. not a lot of choices regarding places to put speakers but im in the progress of building a 6x9 shelf with built in sub enclosure... im opting for "infinity's now all around with 5.25's at the front 6x9's at the back and a nice 10" sub.. nothing to major but loud enough. question is could anyone please help me with which model 5.25's, 6x9's and sub are the best quality and cyrstal clearness?
thanks everyone

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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:26 pm
by rchadha
ez twiggy... i tink you gt the rong make to be honestm8...
i just dun my setup from inphase maybe you should consider
6x9s -- xt693 -- £70
5.25s -- xt52 -- £60
and 12 inch sub or xt12 -- 100
plus 9.99 delivery
up to u though..but sounds mint..just running them in at the mo...but it sounds soogood compared to what i'e had in the past
only paid wats said above cos i got good relation with the manager... if your interested let me kno!
Regards
Raj
edit-- sori all their stuffs on
www.caraudiocentre.co.uk if you wana c the piks can't work out this picture hosting malarky.
Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:33 pm
by fuzzy
pity you dont have such a good relationship with the english language

Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:34 pm
by TW166Y
nice 1 Raj..... ill take a look fella

Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:42 pm
by TW166Y
they look powerfull mate... dont really wanna shell out £300 for speakers though... if you know what i mean, got a budget of about £150 at the moment

Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:45 pm
by rchadha
CHEERS FUZZY!! i just read what i wrote LOL
twiggy.. honestly m8 i tink you should wait or like do it bit by bit cant xpalin how i feel when i gt it blasting!!
maybe get a 10 instead of a 12
Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:48 pm
by TW166Y
i know but arnt infinity suppose to blast a bit too??

Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:54 pm
by rchadha
not to sure mate...i used to use dbaudio.. went off them now using inphase...
i thought infinty were pricey...never looked into them much really though...seen sum of their amps though do look nice..
i want 4 of these inphase in my boot soon..when i can afford it..
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:10 am
by miniblob
Most important thing with speakers is........ Listen before you buy!!!!!!!
They've only gotta please your ears, so if you hear some infinity's and they sound good to you, then your sorted!!
Find a dealer who can demo the infinity's and a couple of other brands for a similar price - you'd be amazed at how diferrent speakers the same price can sound!!
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:15 am
by ad318i
can you fit 6x9's in the rear speaker bit of the touring of have you put them somewhere else??
i wouldnt mine upgrading the speakers on mine, but dont know what i can fit in there
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:50 am
by TW166Y
ad318i wrote:can you fit 6x9's in the rear speaker bit of the touring of have you put them somewhere else??
i wouldnt mine upgrading the speakers on mine, but dont know what i can fit in there
read top mate mate
Ive built a cusom box which the top of the box acts as a kind of parcel shelf type of thing with the sub enclosure at the lower end of itfacing the rear window.. when its finished ill post pics and show you!

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:51 am
by ad318i
yeah i just noticed what i typed after i did it lol..
is the back speakers 5.25 then?
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:59 am
by m3ben05
I had infitity component front speakers in my old car for a while - excellent speakers at a decent price ( you can pick them up for 60 notes on ebay)
as far as subs go - for that sort of money id look at an alpine type r then spend the rest on a 4 channel amp to run the sub and speakers
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 1:18 am
by TW166Y
ad318i wrote:yeah i just noticed what i typed after i did it lol..
is the back speakers 5.25 then?
no mate rears are 10cm ....................CRAP!
gonna whip all of the old shite out and install fresh babys's 13cm at front i think... may do the mod to allow bigger.... rears totally undecided but im thinking sub deffor and maybe something a bit punchy instead of the 6x9's now... full range speakers still but i may opt for a more rounder speaker rather than oval?? dunno

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 1:19 am
by TW166Y
m3ben05 wrote:I had infitity component front speakers in my old car for a while - excellent speakers at a decent price ( you can pick them up for 60 notes on ebay)
as far as subs go - for that sort of money id look at an alpine type r then spend the rest on a 4 channel amp to run the sub and speakers
thats what i like to hear

cheers ben ill route on ebay... going do it propperly this time around

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:16 am
by ian332isport
Twiggy,
You would be better off spending more on a good set of front components and not having any rear speakers at all (apart from the sub). If installed and setup correclty, the front speakers will give a much better sound. If the budget allows, you will get a big improvement running the components off a separate amplifier as well.
Cheers,
Ian.
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:34 pm
by TW166Y
ian332isport wrote:Twiggy,
You would be better off spending more on a good set of front components and not having any rear speakers at all (apart from the sub). If installed and setup correclty, the front speakers will give a much better sound. If the budget allows, you will get a big improvement running the components off a separate amplifier as well.
Cheers,
Ian.
thanks ian... ill have a look, do you reccomend any?
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:51 pm
by ian332isport
TW166Y wrote: thanks ian... ill have a look, do you reccomend any?
For around £150 I would be looking at something like these:
http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product ... 15bb1b4559
I know it's more than you were looking to spend, but I really would recommend an amplifier. You can get some real bargains on eBay and as long as you buy a decent make you should be fine with a used one.
Somthing like a Genesis Profile 2 would match those nicely and sound superb.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genesis-Profile-2 ... dZViewItem
Ian.
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:57 pm
by m3ben05
Good advice Ian, if it was me i would just buy the best components, sub and amp you can afford.
If money is tight concentrate on the amp and components with a cheaper sub.
Genesis are one of the best amplifier makers around so you cant go wrong with that if the budget will stretch (JL audio are also amazing)
1 last thing, dont forget to allow for decent cables and some sort of sound proofing (dynamat etc) to reduce panel vibrations
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 5:55 pm
by julianm40
As above really mate, good components mated to a good amp would kick the shit out of a coaxal / 6x9 / sub combo for the same money for sound quality.
My mates got an old set of infinity 6" components in his golf and they are really shit hot even though there running off his headunit.
Honestly mate, dont bother with a sub, IMO decent componets will produce plenty of bass without drowning out everything else. Unless thats what you like ....
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:46 pm
by dark_sounds
ian332isport wrote:Twiggy,
You would be better off spending more on a good set of front components and not having any rear speakers at all (apart from the sub). If installed and setup correclty, the front speakers will give a much better sound. If the budget allows, you will get a big improvement running the components off a separate amplifier as well.
Cheers,
Ian.
seconded indeed! well worth doing, a cheap second hand 2x50 or 2-75 watt amp for tweets, and a 100x2 -200x2 amp for mids, running them like that without the passive cross over will sound much much better, go second hand and ull save a bomb! especially if u not too bothered about the looks of your system you can get yourself some Old skool amps which do the job very well indeed for very cheap, 20 odd quid, (infact i have a old skool 2x75 watt kenwood amp back in the day when kenwood were up there! )
if you can id actually consider getting 6"-6.5" mids up front make some mdf pods or something, will be worth it imo. second hand component set, decent like, prob 70 for what was originally a 140 set etc.. and tbh just check out the buyer if he/she seems alright then they prob havnt been trashed.
go with a 12" sub, again i dont personalyl see anything wrong with second hand gear, as long as you know its from a good owner.
scrap the 6x9s.. though if u want u can have my pheonix gold ones for dirt! i dont want them, they sounded good. though its not my cup of tea tbh. they came with car! lol
just for example i recently sold a 4channal amp (4x50@4ohm) for 80 quid. originally cost me 140. nothign wrong with it at all! bridged to give 150x2@4ohm.
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:51 pm
by dark_sounds
m3ben05 wrote:Good advice Ian, if it was me i would just buy the best components, sub and amp you can afford.
If money is tight concentrate on the amp and components with a cheaper sub.
Genesis are one of the best amplifier makers around so you cant go wrong with that if the budget will stretch (JL audio are also amazing)
1 last thing, dont forget to allow for decent cables and some sort of sound proofing (dynamat etc) to reduce panel vibrations
again seconded!
genesis on ebay seems to be going for very very decent money! not for the seller! but for the buyer! i was looking into getting a genny set up,, though i want something with more joose! though the quality of genny amps really do show through, a genny watt is more reliable then other cheaper brand wich claim to give out more watts.
and their british

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:44 pm
by Stoney_god
all my new Tourer stuff has arrive from
www.caraudiosecurity.com today and gonna fit it tomorrow.. Got some infinity components in the end for the front and also their JBL Sub/Amp/Box etc speacial offer as I really rate JBL stuff.. Also got my JBL 6 x9's to bodge in the boot somehow... Ah fook it I'll convert my rear h/rests into speaker boxes !!! lol...

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:01 pm
by TW166Y
well looks like im on the ebay hunt
like you said though mate... you can get some top gear off ebay, as long has it aint bin cained! brilliant advice off all of you lads, im keeping my eyes peeled to see what i can fondle out

david dickinson time
If anyone else see's anything give us a shout, i really wanna get this sorted now, ive been putting it off for nearly a year

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:05 pm
by rchadha
http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... ic&t=35529
check out thatlink..managed to get permanent discount for zoners! through me at the moment..but they will have some dicount codes for us soon!!!
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:06 pm
by TW166Y
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:03 pm
by placey
those kenwoods won't sound bad pete if they are installed with care but i reckon you're much better off getting quality used kit for your money. time spent hunting down some focals, jl audios, genesis or similar will not be regretted. the mass market japanese kit usch as the kenwoods you've picked out above are just that - mass market. you can do better....
if you're worried about them being damaged then take along a portable setup and test them before parting with any money and you'll have peace of mind too.
paul
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:03 pm
by TW166Y
paul you are a true ledgend mate and you have pm

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:18 pm
by julianm40
Wouldnt trust em, he gives three ratings Peak Power, Rated input power and maximum input power. All of which mean bollocks all! RMS is the only rating you should go by. Im being fussy though, they look pretty decent for 50 squid. Give em a go!