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MtechI vs Mtech2

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:23 pm
by redrobbie
Can someone please make it clearer to me the difference between these 2 styles and their rear spoilers.

Pics would be appreciated :thumb:

What would suit the 318iS in your opinions?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:10 pm
by johnono
allow me :)


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MTEC II ( cheers Adam :wink: )

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MTEC I (courtesy of Mason i beleive :) )


basically the tech 2 is chunkier, as is the whole appearence of the car, where as a tech 1 (pre facelift *) was a much sleeker look


*pre facelifts have "metal bumpers" and "L-tronic" injection systems for the 2l and 2.5 alike

Post facelifts have "plastic bumpers" and "motronic" injection systems for the comparable engines

the changeover was around 87-88 but both examples can be found earlier and later than that period. Cabrios have generally the pre-facelift shape all through the age range but the Motorsport Cabriolets have the post facelift body and tec2 kit

prefacelift rear arches are different to postfacelift versions


hth :cool:

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:46 am
by Zayyan
johnono wrote:the Motorsport Cabriolets have the post facelift body and tec2 kit
Not entirely sure of that, I think gazza325cab has a Motorsport and that's the pre-facelift rear end but with Tech II kit, I'm probably wrong though.

Re what kit will suit a 318is I can only say Tech II due to the iS only being available post-facelift... :)

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:51 am
by johnono
ive seen a mtec 1 cab, and an mtec 1 baur cab, both i think were legit, but im not sure.

a tec 2 on a pre facelift is a custom though, as the bumpers and arches are different and dont fit exactly.

motorsport cabs are only post facel. only afaik

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:53 am
by johnono
and a mtec 2 on an is would be the Nutz! my favorite kit on any car by miles. subtle but menacing without looking like darth vaders bell end :mad:

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:07 am
by nav786
Zayyan wrote:
johnono wrote:the Motorsport Cabriolets have the post facelift body and tec2 kit
Not entirely sure of that, I think gazza325cab has a Motorsport and that's the pre-facelift rear end but with Tech II kit, I'm probably wrong though.

Re what kit will suit a 318is I can only say Tech II due to the iS only being available post-facelift... :)
some of the motorsport cabs had the prefaclift rear lights. they also did not have the numberplate srround as the post facelift do. i say some of the motorsport cabs but i have yet not seen one with postfacelift rearlights, normal cabs did have postfacelift rear.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:00 pm
by redrobbie
Nice one guys, its all a bit clearer now. :D
Thanks for those pics aswell.

Just wondering though, what cars came with the techII kit as standard. If My iS is a facelift E30 how comes it has the techI look??

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:28 pm
by Batch
I disagree about the engines - only m20b20 came with L-tronic, 2.5 were all motronics. not sure about m20b23.
P.S. I have baur cabrio with mTech I and coupe with mtech I and post-facelift rear lights.... actually with mTech I pre facelift rear lights look better, because the lights are thinner (more narrow or what) and it looks more ballanced 2gather. After carrying out a rear lights convertion i realised that i've mistaken a bit... :cry:
Here is my mTech I cab
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:21 pm
by johnono
well.. just goes to show, combinations every which way :D

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:24 pm
by Zayyan
redrobbie wrote:Nice one guys, its all a bit clearer now. :D
Thanks for those pics aswell.

Just wondering though, what cars came with the techII kit as standard. If My iS is a facelift E30 how comes it has the techI look??
Only the 325i Sport came with the M Tech I (for pre-88 cars) or II (for post-88 cars) kit as standard.

The previous owner of your car could've put the Tech I kit on it?

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:17 am
by Batch
I'm not sure about the left-hand drive cars, but european cars were also 320's with mTech I. I've had one.
And my baur cabrio ir registered ar 318. Not sure this mTech I is stock...

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:15 pm
by redrobbie
I got a bit confused over the whole spoiler thing, my car has the back 'lip' spoiler so I assumed it was the techI kit on the car.

My car is on a G plate but I found out it is as standard as it was when first made with a chin front spoiler!

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:50 pm
by johnono
remember that the build spec of the car can have "additional extras" purchased on ordering the car from new so there is a possibility that some cars may feature a mix of kit items dependant on the customer at at hand

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:33 pm
by redrobbie
yeh, cheers johnono! 8)

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:35 pm
by Zayyan
redrobbie wrote:I got a bit confused over the whole spoiler thing, my car has the back 'lip' spoiler so I assumed it was the techI kit on the car.

My car is on a G plate but I found out it is as standard as it was when first made with a chin front spoiler!
Is the lip you have not a lot smaller than the Tech I lip?

If you're not sure it's bodykitted it could be be as standard with the front and rear lip :mad:

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:35 am
by redrobbie
Yeh its smaller than the techI lip (masons e30). Ive realised now my iS just has the standard iS stuff on it.

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:51 am
by Zayyan
Batch wrote:I'm not sure about the left-hand drive cars, but european cars were also 320's with mTech I. I've had one.
Did all 320s have the kit as standard though?

The M Tech kit was an option on any E30....

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:28 am
by 320Touring
Mtech 2 is the cooler in my opinion and better suited to the iS (as its a facelift car)

However, id spend the Ԛ£400 for the kit on making sure the suspension on the car was in good nick (New bushes/dampers etc)

cos in my opinion, looks are secondary to Safety, handling and performance :wink:

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:30 am
by mrLEE30
just to mix it up BMW Japan made 320 and 325 non-sport and auto gearbox with full mtech2 kit and boot spoiler. and just for the hell heres my mtech1 sport!!

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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:58 pm
by redrobbie
Yeh i definately agree with you on safety first and the suspension.

e30 conv

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:30 am
by aussie_e30
reading the posts above i think i know the answer to this but,
i have an 87 conv. (pre face lift obviously).
it will take a lot more work to fit an mtech II kit then I, correct?