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m60b40 v8 swap step-by-step
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:16 pm
by maxel
is it hardto put a m60 to an e30?Also if anyone has some detailed story of a similar swap or a walkthrough it would be great.
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:17 pm
by maxfield
Search.
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:39 pm
by maxel
tried, bad resaults
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:47 pm
by Kos
its no easy task
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:57 pm
by maxel
Kos wrote:its no easy task
, compared to m50, what do u think

i want these 282hp soooo bad :'(
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:01 pm
by fuzzy
maxel wrote:Kos wrote:its no easy task
, compared to m50, what do u think

i want these 282hp soooo bad :'(
go cosworth then as that exactly the power figure i have

Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:06 pm
by Kos
maxel wrote:Kos wrote:its no easy task
, compared to m50, what do u think

i want these 282hp soooo bad :'(
never done an m50, but judging how popular its getting its cant be too difficult, where as i know of one m60 v8 .
so if an m50 is 4/10 on the difficult scale a v8 would be 7.5/10
you can get an m52 2.8 up to 250bhp which is very lively in an e30
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:08 pm
by maxel
with expensive mods yeah... ?
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:14 pm
by Kos
maxel wrote:with expensive mods yeah... ?
what, to get 250 bhp
2.8 from e36
2.5 inlet manifold and throttle body form e36
us spec e36 m3 cams
re-map
cost maybe £2500 including getting your engine
V8 and six speed box aint cheep, lots of fabrication, manifolds to worry about, brakes and servo issues ? costs , lots more i recon
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:16 pm
by maxfield
Kos wrote:what, to get 250 bhp
2.8 from e36
2.5 inlet manifold and throttle body form e36
us spec e36 m3 cams
re-map
cost maybe £2500 including getting your engine
Decent filter and exhaust?
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:48 pm
by Kos
maxfield wrote:Kos wrote:what, to get 250 bhp
2.8 from e36
2.5 inlet manifold and throttle body form e36
us spec e36 m3 cams
re-map
cost maybe £2500 including getting your engine
Decent filter and exhaust?
goes with out saying they help, i wont include them into any conversion cost as you'd do them to any car!
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:57 am
by Gravy
I'm trying this conversion very slowly and it is tricky. I haven't even got into the tough stuff yet, and as Kos says, brakes and gearbox are the biggest bugbear. 6 speed g/box is a) extremely rare and b) about £1000 if you find one unless you are seriously lucky and find a breaker who doesn't know what they have got.
However, where there is a will there is a way and they can be made to sound amazing. BMW really muted the engine with there exhaust system, paricularly on the 7 series (quite understandably for a luxo-barge) where my motor came from.
Do a search for BMW V8 on youtube and or BMW E28 V8, listen to those puppies sing and be inspired!
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:46 pm
by glenn
maxel wrote:is it hardto put a m60 to an e30?Also if anyone has some detailed story of a similar swap or a walkthrough it would be great.
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... pic&t=2882

Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:42 pm
by Simon13
yeah you can mod a 2.8 6 pot but you can't argue with 286bhp and 295lbs. Can you? You's need a super charger or turbo to get the 2.8 going like that.
If done properly it would be the most drivable conversion out there! V8 grunt, no bodged turbos on 2.5's or £3000 S50's or big heavy S38's. They are a fair bit lighter than the M30 boat anchor and won't be hanging over the front axle. Just a simple 4 valve V8 that on the whole is a good engine and won't do head gaskets like the M62, bar Nikasil!
You don't have to use the 6 speed box as the far more common 5 speed from the E34 530 v8 bolts straight on
This is the conversion i'd like to do once the pina is done, so a long way off then!
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:27 pm
by bigdek
this is my one.
Not on the road but it is a driver. going to transfer it all into a 3dr
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... highlight=
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:27 am
by maxel
nice
Re: Is it difficult to put a m60 into a e30?
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:28 am
by maxel
so anyone has a step-bystep guide or a list of things needed or sum?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:11 am
by chu346
try this:

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:04 am
by maxel
thanks man, german language class.....here i come

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:48 pm
by chu346
For some reason the link don't work properly, try this
http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... uage_tools
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:07 pm
by maxel
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:22 pm
by bigdek
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:29 pm
by maxel
thank you so much
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:16 pm
by chris_m50
hey guys, anyone planning on doing this project?? Ive got the engine and auto box out of an e32 Im selling on, as the cars had its chips

at least its not an e30
PM me if ur interested..
Cheers
chris
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:37 am
by maxel
hmmm i want to do it, but also live in iceland (so wont be buying an enigne from u) and this is so rare swap or something, nobdy has ever covered it in extreme detail like u can find with the m50 and m30

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:43 am
by james_obryan
kos thats not 250 bhp. Maybe add a set of m3 manifolds and you would be there.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:56 am
by Kos
james_obryan wrote:kos thats not 250 bhp. Maybe add a set of m3 manifolds and you would be there.
got it done on my mate e36, 251 bhp on standard exhaust manifolds. they flow pretty well from factory
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:03 pm
by maxel
the m60b40 is supposed to be 280hp (something) from the box sooo

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:10 pm
by james_obryan
I know people with all the above mods apart from the cams that are making about 40 bhp more than stock, so are you saying that the cams add another 50% i.e. 20 bhp when combined to all the other mods. Thats only 35 bhp shy of the 3.0 m3 with its manifolds and higher compression and advanced vanos
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:27 am
by Kos
james_obryan wrote:I know people with all the above mods apart from the cams that are making about 40 bhp more than stock, so are you saying that the cams add another 50% i.e. 20 bhp when combined to all the other mods. Thats only 35 bhp shy of the 3.0 m3 with its manifolds and higher compression and advanced vanos
193 plus the 40 hp gain with out cams comes to 233, leaving you 17 hp short of 250, considering you will have a less restrictive exhaust and some sort of induction going on i dont think thats unreasable claim, and its not a claim, its fact
ss for being only 35-40 hp shy of the M3, why do you thing the 328i sport was retricted to 193, cheaper insurance and to not make the M3 look only a bit better.
a simple re-map on a 328i sport puts it up to 210-215 bhp