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actuator..?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:36 pm
by blingsta
Right guys... im in need of a new actuator as the one essex turbo's replaced my old one with is very weak and i cant get it past 6psi... i want 10psi and was at one stage told a -31 actuator is what i needed..however, looking further, its been pointed out to me that -31 actuators open at 15psi !!! what do i need for mine then guys???

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:57 pm
by Turbo-Brown
If you get yourself a boost control solenoid, you can keep the 6psi actuator and up the boost using the ECU.

Much more stable than an actuator alone and gives you the ability to map your boost :D

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:06 pm
by kam
Sorry to hijack the post, but how does the boost control solenoid work, do you neeed to add anything else? I'm quite interested in doing this to my car as the ECU has the capability to map the boost. Cheers.

Kam

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:08 pm
by fuzzy
i have a -31 actuator and im running 17 psi atm and im told i can use this actuator to run at the 28 psi my turbo can handle rather than upgrading to the -34 :?

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:37 pm
by blingsta
Turbo-Brown wrote:If you get yourself a boost control solenoid, you can keep the 6psi actuator and up the boost using the ECU.

Much more stable than an actuator alone and gives you the ability to map your boost :D
would love to do this but my m/s needs some bits added to make this happen, Ants been waiting on parts for ages and im not enjoying my boost, so im going the new actuator way ! just need to find the right 1.. :D

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:03 pm
by Turbo-Brown
kam wrote:Sorry to hijack the post, but how does the boost control solenoid work, do you neeed to add anything else? I'm quite interested in doing this to my car as the ECU has the capability to map the boost. Cheers.

Kam
The solenoid valve will have three ports. To install the solenoid you'd cut (and possibly extend) the signal pipe to the actuator.

Then, you see which two ports on the valve are connected to eachother when there's no volts on the solenoid. You plug the gap in the signal pipe with the two connected ports and, if the solenoid wasn't turned on, you'd drive off as though it wasn't there seeing the same boost as you used to.

However, once you've wired up the solenoid so the ECU can control it, the ECU can start to up the boost.

The ECU will pulse the solenoid so that the boost signal to the actuator is interrupted which prevents the actuator from moving. When the solenoid it powered up, the third port on the valve (which vents to atmosphere) lets air that would be trapped in the actuator capsule out.

All good fun :D

Fair enough Erel, got the boost lust again then? :D

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:44 pm
by blingsta
ohh yess.. im loving it, apart from the spiking!! just this problem to sort out and i can enjoy my boost even more! :D

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:08 pm
by d6dph
Erel, Last night you were saying it was plenty quick enough, didn't want any more power ect :lol:

Changed your mind rather quickly mate :D

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:50 pm
by blingsta
^^ its not more power im after mate. my boost protection is cutting in due to a weak actuator. bit like you red lining yours and fuel cuts off ! just trying to eliminate that problem dude

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:54 am
by e30_Turbo
Erel,

What happened to that fancy boost controller you had?

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:25 am
by blingsta
fozzymonster wrote:Erel,

What happened to that fancy boost controller you had?
Do you mean the in car boost valve? sold it on e-bay after i blew the 2.7 with it. :cry: would 1 of them do the trick?

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:20 pm
by e30_Turbo
blingsta wrote:
fozzymonster wrote:Erel,

What happened to that fancy boost controller you had?
Do you mean the in car boost valve? sold it on e-bay after i blew the 2.7 with it. :cry: would 1 of them do the trick?

Yep! :(

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:32 pm
by Ant
I'm on the case for this, whats needed is a stronger actuator, no bleed valve can sort the surging issue Erel has

his W/gate is fully open @ 7 psi, so nothing will help short of an uprated unit.

-31 is no good, thats over a bar OPENING pressure, so would offer control in the 18-20 psi range , too high for the stock CR guys.

currntly has a -16 which is for 8psi or so so although weak, its working within its effective range.

trying to split the differance, but not so easy with hybrids due to the flow rates being outside the manufacturers specs.

watch this space.....

:cool:

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:48 pm
by blingsta
Watching mate!! ive taken off that brass joint thingy mijig, alot better with no spiking !! :D , but i want to run at the maximum safest level, or should i say 9-10psi..... eagerly waiting on the m/s bits mate so we can map the boost... waiting your call soon hopefully. :D

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:49 pm
by midnight
i found out that ive got a -31 actuator and im only running 5 psi at the moment, and when i had my rs turbo i was only running 10psi most of the time on a -31 actuator, so id say use one of them

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:09 pm
by deano325t
will a -16 work ok in the 10psi range then?

or whats the next one up?

I`ve got a -31 on my new turbo .no good if it doesn`t start working till a bar .

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:02 pm
by SPADGE
Ant i have a few standard Cossie actuators laying around if you want to try them?

Re: actuator..?

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:45 am
by cliffybabe
Erel, U just like making me want a turbo more dont ya :lol:

When u took me out in ur cab i thought it was wicked and sods law it run well good whe we went for a spin