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supra into e30
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:29 pm
by dazleeds
yeah ya heard me
so has anyone ever seen it done??
i know the aussie lads love these and chuck em in anything with wheels
so looking for any info/links/help what ya got for me???
also alternatives will be considered but i really like the look of the 7mgte turbo lump from the mk3 supras
plus they are very cheap to pick up a donor
cheers all
Daz
Re: supra into e30
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:31 pm
by maxfield
what are these plans for
Re: supra into e30
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:33 pm
by bigkev
how cheap is very cheap?
Re: supra into e30
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:36 pm
by dazleeds
donor car 500ish maybe less

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:46 pm
by 316vinni
Daz the mk3 supra turbo i had for this only cost me £200. You can pick a mk3 supra up for £100 and up. Glad you are going to give it ago. Ill wait and see how you get on before i try and do it

No my twins are not for sale, so get that out your head

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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:47 pm
by dazleeds

how dare you suggest that i may be after your turbo,s
will visit soooooooooooooon
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:54 pm
by 316vinni
dazleeds wrote:
how dare you suggest that i may be after your turbo,s
will visit soooooooooooooon
You are getting old now, so you will only need the one turbo

Also the lump fits into the E30 engine bay nice and snug

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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:57 pm
by 320Touring
daz you deviant dooberboy.
shame on you for these evil far east thoughts. you sound nearly as sick as Lee

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:57 pm
by E30BeemerLad
316vinni wrote: No my twins are not for sale, so get that out your head

So have you got a 1jz powered supra fella?
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:05 pm
by dazleeds
320Touring wrote:daz you deviant dooberboy.
shame on you for these evil far east thoughts. you sound nearly as sick as Lee

sometimes the path of rightiousness takes many twists and turns
leading uus into unknown territorys,these we must follow to achieve our goals and fullfill dreams of fast quarter mile times

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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:09 pm
by E30BeemerLad
Daz, after reading that article again on Eurocca I am thinking that as it's big power you are after and that the strip is gonna be the natural habitat for such a beast, you are prob best sticking with the auto box found on so many supras. This makes the donor car even cheaper as the manuals are more desirable.
An auto will get down the 1/4 quicker and you can brake boost (both feet on the pedals meaning you are "on boost" when you step off the brake)
Damn you if you get this conversion done before I do

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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:18 pm
by dazleeds
E30BeemerLad wrote:Daz, after reading that article again on Eurocca I am thinking that as it's big power you are after and that the strip is gonna be the natural habitat for such a beast, you are prob best sticking with the auto box found on so many supras. This makes the donor car even cheaper as the manuals are more desirable.
An auto will get down the 1/4 quicker and you can brake boost (both feet on the pedals meaning you are "on boost" when you step off the brake)
Damn you if you get this conversion done before I do

cant see this happening quickly mate
but the more i read the more im liking this idea
donor,s are just soooo cheap too
gonna get the 2.7 sorted for the sport
then strip my auto for all usefull bits incl tech1 kit and get hold of another early 2door shell in the meantime will keep eyes open for a giveaway supra

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:29 pm
by 316vinni
E30BeemerLad wrote:316vinni wrote: No my twins are not for sale, so get that out your head

So have you got a 1jz powered supra fella?
Only bits and and bobs left. I had to get rid of most of it to make space.
Daz you have got to do it mate, then ill know more about it.

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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:44 pm
by E30BeemerLad
here is an E30 in Australia getting a Toyota 2JZ-GTE engine (out of the MK4 Supra TT)
This one is being prepped for a big power output, I think he's going for 600RWHP
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/720651
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:45 pm
by E30BeemerLad
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:50 pm
by 316vinni

That is going to be a monster. Good find BeemerLad

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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:44 pm
by dazleeds
any more input out there

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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:53 pm
by WillG
looks like a lawn mower engine from front

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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:41 pm
by E30BeemerLad
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:11 pm
by dazleeds
WillG wrote:looks like a lawn mower engine from front

but with a whole lawn full of potential fella

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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:53 pm
by oguz327
Daz you sick man!
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:58 pm
by 316vinni
oguz3001 wrote:Daz you sick man!
I will 2nd that coment

Only sick people think of doing this Daz. Get some help man.

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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:15 pm
by jonb
this is the engine from the supra wedge turd yes?
if so then isnt this an unreliable shitter of an engine, and doesnt give much power. hence the reason mk3 supras are worth about £3.50. oh and they also look terrible, and naff...hence the reason they are worth £3.50.
the mk4 was classed as a cheap supercar in its day. the engine is also much more tunable. 400bhp+ is easy i guess. and obviously you can get 1000bhp+ bhp with enough £Â£Ã‚£.
sounds like alot of work daz. steer clear dude.
get an m30 in there or something.
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:30 pm
by E30BeemerLad
Jon, they get the heavy shitter supra to 60 in the 6 sec bracket and that is in standard trim with 2 cats strangling it.
They have a reputation for headgaskets but once done and torqued down properly, they are strong.
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:16 pm
by 316vinni
E30BeemerLad wrote:Jon, they get the heavy shitter supra to 60 in the 6 sec bracket and that is in standard trim with 2 cats strangling it.
They have a reputation for headgaskets but once done and torqued down properly, they are strong.
Like he said
But Daz if you realy want to go for something to kick a 3.5 or 2.7 up the ass, then drop one of these in the engine bay. I would give you 2 days and you would be

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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:34 am
by jonb
316vinni wrote:E30BeemerLad wrote:Jon, they get the heavy shitter supra to 60 in the 6 sec bracket and that is in standard trim with 2 cats strangling it.
They have a reputation for headgaskets but once done and torqued down properly, they are strong.
Like he said
But Daz if you realy want to go for something to kick a 3.5 or 2.7 up the ass, then drop one of these in the engine bay. I would give you 2 days and you would be

hhmm.
ok, what about the wiring, custom propshaft, engine mounts, gearbox mounts, custom rad, etc etc....
sounds like alot of fun. and i dont think it could be done on a weekend.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:17 pm
by ant2
yeh deffo put a 2jz in, thr 7m is abit lame
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:54 pm
by tim-ix
That's all well and good, but what about about a Skyline twin turbo? Potential seems to be limited only by budget judging from the 1000+BHP monsters I've seen reported. The guys making over 1000bhp don't even stress-relieve the block by all accounts. 1000bhp in an E30 would be.......interesting.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:38 pm
by E30BeemerLad
The 7M-GTE engine from the UK MK3 Surpa Turbo is the weapon of choice due to availability and they cost buttons. Personally I would look to retain the engine & box, but as JonB said, you are still gonna be messing with the prop. 3.91 diff is the correct ratio, so E30 one perhaps to be retained, but would be interesting to see if the supra one would fit as it is evidently stronger and is LSD as standard.
The 1jz engine mentioned is the 2.5 twin-turbo unit, as per the pic posted by Vinni. These are only found in TT Soarers and also the Jap import MK3 Supra, so they are nowhere near as common, so cost more. A bare engine with no tubs or loom would cost you £375. These are 280bhp out of the box and the right side of 300 once you junk the cats.
The 2jz out of the MK4 supra costs megabucks to buy.
The skyline lumps are OK, but cost much more to get the power gains from compared to the toyota lumps and are not as reliable.
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:39 pm
by jkarran
E30BeemerLad wrote:Jon, they get the heavy shitter supra to 60 in the 6 sec bracket and that is in standard trim with 2 cats strangling it.
And some of the worst exhaust manifolds ever. Easy to fix
jk
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:58 pm
by oze30
http://www.eurocca.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13398
Not sure if youhave to be a member (I am) but its about a guy who dropped a 2jzgte into an e30
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:05 pm
by J_Mac
would love to do something extreme but not got the funds, planing a "simple" 2.5/2.8 m50 convert in the search for a non old rickety sounding 2.0 m20, if you have the funds got for it. can always change back if you no like
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:10 pm
by ric325i
oh man i may forget the 3.5 conversion and aim for a silly turbo!?!
the guy who is doing some welding on my old girl has 2 supra's with over 800bhp road legal drag cars! mental.
this guy does turbo conversions and more i think he would enjoy the challenge of making a supra turbo powered e30!
but its all about the £Â£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£ i dont have.
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:46 pm
by gall
ric,
the skyline had 800bhp mate, the silver supra has about 1000 - 1500 bhp!
put it this way pep's it's got a paracute to slow it down on the strip,
i was thinking about doing this conversion last nite lad, might go and see
how much that spare engine would be thats on the floor!!!!
he did say i should build something stupid like!!!
i think that would do it, 1000 bhp e30 on drag tyres!!!!
hehe.
gall.
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:19 pm
by WillG
so what new parts and work do these engines need to make this power?