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m40b16 into a 320i(m20b20)
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:42 pm
by michael24m
i'm going to do this swap for the better economy of city travel:D
i'm planning to put the m40b16 engine from a '89 316i into a '84 320i (le-jetronic).
what modification is needed for the electrical side of the story? i have the complete m40 engine, complete with electrics and all.
is this a relatively easy modification?
i also would want my diagnostics plug to work after the mod.
awaiting for your advice!
thanks!
Re: m40b16 into a 320i(m20b20)
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:55 pm
by m-dtech
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:36 pm
by michael24m
i have the whole 316i donor car, so prop, no problem. i will also need the differential?
is this modification worth it?
what do you think?
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:25 pm
by Morat
why not upgrade to MS on your existing engine?
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:31 pm
by m-dtech
MS wont do much on a flat top IMO
if fuel economy is a problem then BMW is the wrong car for you.
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:55 pm
by michael24m
will i also need the differential fitted from the 316i for this mod?
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:00 pm
by cliffybabe
yep ur need th ediff aswell mate

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:14 pm
by bmwe30mtech
The M40 has a crap economy, it wont be much better, if any, than the 320i (amazingly). The M40 isnt great when it comes to mpg, noise etc. (im allowed to put it down, i have one).
Maybe you dont want a BMW, maybe a corsa....
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:30 pm
by cliffybabe
bmwe30mtech wrote:The M40 has a crap economy, it wont be much better, if any, than the 320i (amazingly). The M40 isnt great when it comes to mpg, noise etc. (im allowed to put it down, i have one).
Maybe you dont want a BMW, maybe a corsa....
yeah i can vouch for pauls statment i have seen him in action on the motorway, well did see him in action until we all left him

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:56 pm
by bmwe30mtech
cliffybabe wrote:bmwe30mtech wrote:The M40 has a crap economy, it wont be much better, if any, than the 320i (amazingly). The M40 isnt great when it comes to mpg, noise etc. (im allowed to put it down, i have one).
Maybe you dont want a BMW, maybe a corsa....
yeah i can vouch for pauls statment i have seen him in action on the motorway, well did see him in action until we all left him

You were well into the three figure speeds mate....m40 wont go much over the indicated 120. I need 2.5 power

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:06 pm
by cliffybabe
bmwe30mtech wrote:
You were well into the three figure speeds mate....m40 wont go much over the indicated 120. I need 2.5 power


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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:20 pm
by liam012
a 318is motor with 3.91 (or 3.73 if you are yhat fuel cautious) diff will yield great economy.
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:03 pm
by michael24m
wow, lots of feedback, thanks!
actually my m20b20 doesn't have such a high fuel consumption, but i was thinking the m40b16 has even better fuel economy and being motronic and all.
anyways, my m20b20 runs pretty smooth no problems.
so you are saying it's not worth the mod, even if mine is a LE-Jetronic engine?
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:10 pm
by liam012
what does your 2 litre give?
29mpg?
a 318is should give 36 maybe more
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:31 pm
by michael24m
well, i can't get my hands on an 318is engine

so if not, i'll sell the m40 lump, it's in good condition.
yes the 2 litre is making 23 mpg consumption wich i think it's pretty good for a 2.0 litre engine or not?:D
it's like 7.5-8.5 in litres per 100km
oh sorry i got the conversion all wrong...where i am from they do it litres per 100km
so it's like 34-35 mpg on the 2 litre sorry

Re: m40b16 into a 320i(m20b20)
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:43 pm
by Brianmoooore
michael24m wrote:i'm going to do this swap for the better economy of city travel
LPG your existing engine.
Re: m40b16 into a 320i(m20b20)
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:45 pm
by 320Touring
Brianmoooore wrote:michael24m wrote:i'm going to do this swap for the better economy of city travel
LPG your existing engine.
amen, or get a buspass, and use the car for fun stuff!
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:46 pm
by michael24m
yes, the LPG way.
let me guess if i get this right. it will have the same mpg, but with half the cost of the petrol? or will it have a slightly fewer mpg?
how about the power when running on LPG?
thanks!
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:53 pm
by Brianmoooore
LPG contains 20% less energy per litre than petrol (but the same by weight), so other things being equal, fuel consumption will rise 20%.
In practice you may get better than this, as the original fuel system may be past its best, and there is no excess fueling while the engine is warming up with LPG.
On the power side: A slight, but not noticeable, reduction in power if you use a single point venturi (cheap) system, or no reduction at all if you use a vapour injection (expensive) system.
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:12 pm
by michael24m
thank you for your advice!
i'm taking the LPG way into consideration. this seems like the best solution for my problem
