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is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:17 pm
by damo180
ok people im fed up with playing wit this 318 m40 lump.what i want to know is there any engine and box out of the newer beemers that will fit into the e30 without too much arsing about.m3 lump would be nice but to much chopping needed i think.dont say m30 because getting one of them with a manual box is impossible and i was thinking of running gear from 99 up model

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:20 pm
by robbo86
Might not be worth overlooking the m42 engine, faster engine, torquier, revier chain driven not belt driven and virtually plug and play. Its the conversion I am doing, and would probably be the easiest conversion!

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:21 pm
by ImysE30
dont say m30 because getting one of them with a manual box is impossible
It's not impossible, you just got to look in the right places

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:25 pm
by d6dph
Surely an M50 swap fits the bill perfectly here?

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:28 pm
by secondtimelucky
d6dph wrote:Surely an M50 swap fits the bill perfectly here?
Totally off topic but since your online.. Is there any chance of restoring my title to its old self dave?? :wink:

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:31 pm
by d6dph
Nope :P

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:34 pm
by damo180
so in the terms of getting my hands on a cheap breaker which car would i get nearly everything out of for the conversios

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:34 pm
by secondtimelucky
d6dph: Dam you :D Makes you look queer too though, since it was you that changed it :snigger:

Damo180: sorry for the hi-jack lol

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:38 pm
by ImysE30
Which engine M30 or M50?

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:48 pm
by damo180
either open to every option

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:54 pm
by ImysE30
M30 is out of an old 5 Series (e34 535), also old 7 series (e32 735), also old old 5 series (e28 535) and old 6 series (e24 635)

M50 is out of an E36, the E36 328 is an M52 though

Hope that helps

:D

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:00 pm
by robbo86
Totally off topic but since your online.. Is there any chance of restoring my title to its old self dave??
:teehee:

Perhaps when you buy him a beer he might change it back.

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:07 pm
by Alex
4cyl wise there is only the

m42, m43 and m44

m42 being the easiest and possibly the best, the m44 (later e36 IS engine may be slightly faster but not as revvy)

or you could heavily tune an m10 :cool:

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:21 pm
by damo180
probably go 6 cylinder if anything.has anybody on here tryed the newer engines ie from a 03 3 or 5 series

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:28 pm
by ImysE30
I think that will be a more difficult conversion, M30 or M50 will be good

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:32 pm
by damo180
that would be great but most of them engines have serious milage on them and are getting a bit tired

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:34 pm
by ImysE30
You can find some decent one's with around 130-140k on the clock. I've seen a couple of M30 engined cars with about 130k on them

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:45 pm
by damo180
i was looking for m30 for my track car and i gave up in the end because i couldnt get one with a manual box.can get any amount of them in auto

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:48 pm
by ImysE30
Have a look on ebay, there are a couple of E34 M30's with manual box. Why not get a auto and then just change the box to manual?

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:48 pm
by GrindCulture
New new new engines will be a massive ballache to fit due to all the electrical gubbins attached. M50/M52 sounds the best option, fairly high mileage isn't much of an issue if you can get some service history. E36 M42/M44 will needs lots of E30 bits to fit, you may as well get an E30 M42 for all the extra cost of fitting and E36 item, but they're at best 18 years old now.

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:00 am
by damo180
what other box will mate up to the m30 engine and out of what car

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:02 am
by Alex
i could be wrong but m10 gear box out of 318i and 316 chromies

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:04 am
by ImysE30
Use the same model car, there is a manual box for sale on ebay and also a auto car car is about £350, box is about £150 i think.

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:17 am
by damo180
so would a gearbox out of the disel version do

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:19 am
by ImysE30
I don't think there is a diesel M30 :?

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:20 am
by Alex
think he means either 525td or 324d/td

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:20 am
by damo180
i mean adsl out 0f a 535 e36

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:22 am
by Alex
e36 is the 3 series after the e30

the 535i is the e34

:D

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:24 am
by damo180
i mean out of a 535td onto a m30 engine

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:25 am
by ImysE30
E36 - 3 series
E34 - 5 series

I would recommend getting a whole car, E34 is recommended for M30 swap
Type in 535i in ebay and check out the cars :cool:

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:23 am
by Rav335uk
don't think there is a diesel M3
No sure there isn't a m30 diesel.
You got yours yet imy?????? :mad:

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:45 am
by ImysE30
Rav335uk wrote:
don't think there is a diesel M3
No sure there isn't a m30 diesel.
You got yours yet imy?????? :mad:
Not yet rav, i've seen a couple so going to look at them over the weekend. There are a few auto one's on ebay at the moment, and also a manual box so might think of getting that. Might be on hold till next summer though :cry:

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:03 pm
by daimlerman
Best option is an M50 engine from E34 or E36.Only difficult bit is the exhaust manifold/downpipe and possibly engine loom.I bought a complete E34 for £350...

Re: is there any newer engine thats a handy fit

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:05 pm
by DanThe
damo180 wrote:probably go 6 cylinder if anything.has anybody on here tryed the newer engines ie from a 03 3 or 5 series
I have a 2003 M54B30 (330i etc) engine im fannying about with ATM, believe me, an S50 is more straight forward (in terms of engine work)