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getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:57 pm
by Colonel Sanders
Right, as some of you know, i have been working on my car for a while now, and spunked lots of money and time at it.
Hopefully now i should have it running at the weekend when i get some more time to work on it, with me moving an all.
Got some pics today but still got lots to do before its roadworthy, still have to weld the drivers side outer wing on and fill, but i left that as i have to flare the arches a tiny bit, and im lazy.. :)

a quick speck of the car.

megasquirt and wasted spark

fresh rebuilt motor with whieghted and ballenced rods and pistons and crank, with pistons shaved to give 8.0cr.

ARP head studs and main studs

ported, welded and oringed head,

sachs 618 pressure plate and 6 puk unsprung disc

tial 44mm wastegate open, 50mm tial bov.

650cc RC injectors

huge intercooler

holset hx40

3" downpipe to 2.5 free flow exhaust

equal length manifold

wilwood 280mm brakes

fully polybushed

azev a in 17x8.5 and 17x10!!!

both rear inner and outer arches

there is loads more but i would be here all night.. :)

here are some pics and she needs a clean after having a years worth of crap on her.. and the rocker cover still needs to be powder coated.

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Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:04 pm
by E30BeemerLad
mate that's gonna be a beast, may stand a chance of having some traction too with 10" rears :cool:

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:12 pm
by Colonel Sanders
yeah i hope! its got 245/37r17 stretched on there...

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:12 pm
by fuzzy
is this the one you were aiming for 500bhp with? looks like it will be good fun :D

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:28 pm
by oakey
Awesome! I've been quietly awaiting this one 8)
Ready for the Pod?

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:30 pm
by d6dph
Scrap it. :wink:

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:12 pm
by Colonel Sanders
yep, hoping for around 500hp, na wont be at the pod till next year, cant do it this year. but i will be over for a rolling road tune in a couple. of months.
dave i have felt like scrapping it a few times, but at last its coming together fast! il be back on the xbox as soon as my connection is sorted at my flat....

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:56 pm
by fowler
looks good dude job well done you will have to try and keep up with project fridge !!!! those rear wheels are mean !! might cause you some probs though have you re-enforced the prop ???

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:03 pm
by Colonel Sanders
na not yet mate, had the diff hanger done to a twin, il upgrade the prop and gearbox when i need to when the boost goes up..
il be bringing it up to to book into ant in the next couple of months, so we could compare then? winkeye

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:04 pm
by Jhonno
Liking the block colour.. :cool:

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:13 pm
by fowler
the hanger that is on my to do list

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:47 pm
by law
rossle wrote: oringed head,
A who?!?!?!?!



Mint work BTW :cool:

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:51 pm
by Colonel Sanders
steel wire round the cylinders in the head to hold the gasket in place at high boost..

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:15 pm
by law
Ahh, gottcha. Never knew thats what they were called!

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:53 am
by e30_Turbo
Nice dude!

Atlast....... I can totally understand the waiting game..... been there..... done that......

It WILL BE WORTH IT, mine is, everytime, wooooooooooooosh pssssssssssssst LOL!!!

500bhp??? what's that low boost??? grow some balls man, go for 600+ you've chucked the right parts into it so go for broke! ( I did many times, got the HG's to prove how big my balls are! :roll: )

My 9's out back seem a little wimpy now...... and they're only wearing 215's, time for some new tires then!

Also, do you have a buddy over in there that knows all about M50 turbo's? My mates is finished and wants to chat head gaskets with someone, he's having issues with his MLS. Keeps blowing between the layers.

Thanks, Fozz.

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:56 am
by Colonel Sanders
hey mark, if i were him having trouble with mls, i would take the head off and send it to be oringed, like i did. :)
least you can still use a standard headgasket.
cost me 240 to have my head oringed, including stripping, and an extra 100 to have it welded. at QEP.
500hp will do me....... for now
if i want more then im gonna get forged pistins and rods and go all the way with a huge turbo. winkeye

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:03 am
by e30_Turbo
rossle wrote: 500hp will do me....... for now
if i want more then im gonna get forged pistins and rods and go all the way with a huge turbo. winkeye
Dude, we already have HUGE turbo's! winkeye

I'll have a chat with James later on...... cheers buddy!

Fozz

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:19 am
by Colonel Sanders
yeah but if i go for more il have to get bigger injectors than my 650cc ones and hx 55... winkeye

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:14 pm
by ric325i
what a monster i love it!

500bhp must be crazy power, it still has to be drivable! 600bhp must be crazy to control!!!!

:twisted:

happy days

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:05 pm
by Colonel Sanders
fozzymonster wrote: Also, do you have a buddy over in there that knows all about M50 turbo's? My mates is finished and wants to chat head gaskets with someone, he's having issues with his MLS. Keeps blowing between the layers.

Thanks, Fozz.
just remembered mark, andreas at ppf told me with an mls to drill the rivets and split the layers and spray loctite 3020 on each side of each layer then torque the studs to 65ft/lbs and no more than that.
he said he has never had a leak using this method even at over 1100hp.

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:19 pm
by e30_Turbo
rossle wrote:
fozzymonster wrote: Also, do you have a buddy over in there that knows all about M50 turbo's? My mates is finished and wants to chat head gaskets with someone, he's having issues with his MLS. Keeps blowing between the layers.

Thanks, Fozz.
just remembered mark, andreas at ppf told me with an mls to drill the rivets and split the layers and spray loctite 3020 on each side of each layer then torque the studs to 65ft/lbs and no more than that.
he said he has never had a leak using this method even at over 1100hp.
James had already done that, he used "well seal" between each layer and it stills blows out through the layers. Anything over 12psi blows.

He's only running 1.4bar @ 451bhp so something has to be a little wrong here. I wonder if the head has been wedged when machining? hmmm

I'll suggest the O'ringing when I speak to him tonight, I'll see him Friday anyway, will discuss over a bag of chips down by the sea.

And remember it's a M50B25 but does that make a difference?

Fozz.

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:47 pm
by Colonel Sanders
na wont make any difference mark, all he will have to do is send the head with a new headgasket (wich he will get back) to QEP and then they can get the wire centred perfectly in the middle of the fire rings on the gasket.
some people get the block done, but its not really viable to do that if nothing is wrong with his motor, because then it has to be stripped down to a bare block, then he would have to rebuild it all over again, and it would be very costly and time consuming, so just pop the head off and send it away, job done!!
it will hold a shite load of boost, and if it does go again, at least its just a standard gasket to quick change.. :D

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:10 pm
by appletree
How does the o-ringing fit in? say on a an M42 engin as probly the same as an M20 theres very little room between the cylinders to take any meet out to add a ring to renforce the gasket? any pics of it done?? :D :D

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:17 pm
by fuzzy
on mine its only about 2 or 3mm machined out the block around each piston.

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:11 pm
by Colonel Sanders
sorry didnt take pics of it, i was too much in a rush to get it together, but the wire is 1mm thick and it sits around the cylinders 0.7mm deep leaving 0.3 to grip the fire wall of the gasket.

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:00 pm
by d6dph
rossle wrote: dave i have felt like scrapping it a few times, but at last its coming together fast! il be back on the xbox as soon as my connection is sorted at my flat....
Be good to see this over here at some point. Maybe you could come over for Ace day next year?

It's far too good to scrap, It's had plenty of effort put into it.

(Xbox live has ruined my life, I'm on there all the time lol)

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:48 am
by e30_Turbo
Rossle,

Did they do just the head or head and block?

I spoke to James, he's on the case, he has very talented friends who will look after him.

It's just a pity he's on emerald........

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:01 am
by tylerma
good to see this getting somewhere dude
you must be happy its all underway now

just dont drive it like its on forza

Re: getting close now...

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:25 pm
by Colonel Sanders
mark, just the head mate, you cant do both or it wont seal, but head or block eather is fine.

malc, yeah i been doin abit more today, its nearly read to be started now, just got to make the oil return longer..
cant wait!!!
il be back on forza soon, just waitin for my internet connection to be sorted at my flat, using my old girls at the mo...
hopefully i will have videos by next week, deffo by next weekend!! I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:26 pm
by Colonel Sanders
bit of an update arches are finished, and the engine is ready to run. decided not paint the rocker till i take it off to retorque the head studs after its first start up..
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:28 pm
by d6dph
Cool, See you at Pod then dude :P

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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:31 pm
by Colonel Sanders
haha i wish!! im gutted i cant bring it!! :cry:

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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:35 pm
by isTURBO
Wow Sean

Great stuff mate. You waited a while to finish this. 500 should be some serious power. Can't wait to see her in action mate.

Congrats on a job well done mate.

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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:02 pm
by Colonel Sanders
cheers mate, its been a long time now!!
but at last its almost ready!!
hows yours now?

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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:55 am
by isTURBO
Yeah. All good

She's booked in with Ant at the end of the month for the new injectors and a complete re wiring to try and sort out the cutting off.

Problem now is she's developed a type of miss so I hope its just a spark plug drop and nothing too serious.