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they lose you lots of power.. seen back to back tests by SBD
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Im glad to see this is still going! How long has it been now?
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Jhonno wrote:they lose you lots of power.. seen back to back tests by SBD
oh rite cool, what came out as the best?
rare wrote:Im glad to see this is still going! How long has it been now?
far too long! its been about a year and a half now I think, probably more!
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i think proper sausage filter or summat, cant remember 100% i only remember the socks were a bit shite
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ahhh rite ok, they'll do me for now to get it running :cool:
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:58 pm

So, it started off as a 1.6 engine that you've bored/stroked to 2.0? I'm liking the twin timing chain setup. What sort of power will it put out?
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320iSE wrote:So, it started off as a 1.6 engine that you've bored/stroked to 2.0? I'm liking the twin timing chain setup. What sort of power will it put out?
Cheers!
it started out as a 1.8, ive fitted 2002tii pistons, rods and crank so its stroked to 2.0L. twin timing chain is of a 2002 also.

Im hoping for around 150bhp from the engine with a nice amount of torque
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:06 am

Si,

Have you seen what I'm selling in the parts section?
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It would be a safe cool addition to your motor mate!!

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Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:08 pm

nice one mate, wish I had the money!

Need to spend every bit ive got to get the car rolling now. not far off now. Will be kicking the engine over this week hopefully! :cool:

Oh quick question! do you know the rough jet sizes that i'll need for my carbs? I've got no idea.
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:55 pm

Si,

No worries!

I do know the setup you need as I got them written down but I'm knackered tonight as I've been building engines and shit...... I hate Oil!!! I'll post them tomorrow night ok?

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no worries mate, just post them up whenever.

Oil gets everywere dont it!

Im guessing the 02 is getting abit hotter now :twisted:
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:38 pm

Si,

Pen and Paper?

Chokes: 34
Main Jet: 1.25
emulsion tubes: F16
Aux venturi: 4.50
idle jet: 0.55F8
air corrector jets: 1.70
starter jet: 0.60F5
Accelerator pump jet: 0.40
Accelerator pump back bleed: 0.60
needle valve: 2.00

By the way here's a photo mid build of mine :twisted:

It looks like I'll have to watch the kids don't get sucked in!!!

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Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:40 pm

Wicked, thanks very much for those mate, know any good suppliers for carb bits? need an accelerator cable bracket and obvo the jets.

am i right in thinking these are weber jets and are the same as dellorto ones? or are all jets the same for both carbs?

Those trumpets look insane!!! whats the spec on that new engine?
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They'd suck me up :eek:
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:45 pm

You need to check mate. I'm not sure about Dellorto Carbs.

I would get it running first and then get it on the rolling road. Choose one that's got experience with those carbs and let them mix and match jets and stuff.

My new engine is an ex-Formula3 motor but apart from making over 200bhp I don't know much about it too be honest.

I took the S14 sump of it and its got polished rods and nice lightened crank and also took the rocker cover off and everythings new and says schrick everywhere but apart from that dunno. As long as its f**cking quick I don't really care :twisted:

The only thing that worries me is the Slide Throttles. Apparently they are great for racing but can be dangerous if you get grit down the intake which jams the throttle open :eek: Not good when travelling fast between trees and grit is quite common in rallying. I've got to do it though just for the noise........ Gotta find some really good filters!!!
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ahhh rite ok cool. ill see what i can find out about the dellorto's then. Ive got a rolling road lined up who does all sorts with carbs on caterhams and stuff so that should be all good.

That motor sounds the nuts! just make sure you've got some kind of emergency shut of switch somewere near lol
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:05 pm

Hi Mark

Glad you liekthe engine, I had a m10 with the AJEC set upyou have you need to get a high quality lube for the slie, like lithium grease and stripp & lube as part of a service.

Alsoi would look at a air box, I think rally design, or merlin do a uivesial one to go with a cone filter, revir do a carbon one but big Ԛ£Ã”šÃ‚£Ãƒ”šÃ‚£Ãƒ”šÃ‚£

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Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:34 pm

Si,

sorry to hijack the thread but Jase if this engine gets me a rally win then you d'man mate :D

I was thinking airbox but I've got to be careful with Eligibility scrutineers especially if I start doing well. I've got to find out if they had something pre-74 like that......
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Hi Mark

the alpina set up had a large meta box with a ductfom i think there are some pics on richard 02 pages

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Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:48 pm

hmmmm huston i think i have a mojor problem........been reading my book on weber and dellorto carbs. Turns out theres afew different types. Emission and non-emission versions, emission versions cant be tuned properly with performance engines. mine being DHLA 40N seem to be the emission version :cry:

Looks like im going to have to change the carbs :cry:
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Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:09 pm

Si,

I never heard that before mate I would have thought with your spec engine you would be okay as long as you have 34mm chokes not 32's?? Emission sidedraughts seems to be a contradition....They all suck gallons of fuel!!

...I would get opinions first from Dellorto dealers.

If you do end up getting different carbs, don't get second hand webers that have been fitted to a Ford Kent engine as they are about as far away from the m10 setup as you can get!!

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How's this going, or shouldn't I ask?

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Is it worth considering running injection with throttle bodies using megasquirt? Carbs scare me.

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its goin alright again now, had to concentrate on rebuilding a mk3 polo and a mk2 golf over xmas so havent had much chance to touch the 316 :cry:

I must have won some kind of award now for longest engine conversion lol.
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Si316 wrote: I must have won some kind of award now for longest engine conversion lol.
that prize goes to mfree winkeye
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:58 pm

who made your //M10 badge ??

id quite like an M50 one :)
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my dad made it for me :cool: he loves the car lol
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Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:25 pm

*update* finally got round to the bodywork and its almost all done, just abit on the rear panel and valance.

engine wiring is also nearly done so were looking to fire it up next weekend :cool:

Just got the front bodywork back together after spraying the valance and under sealing everything:
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Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:33 pm

Cool, it will be ready for the summers meets :thumb:
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yeah it will be ready for this years meets :D cant wait!
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Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:37 pm

Looking forward to seeing this puppy moving. Good luck firing it up next weekend.
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How big is that sig pic !!!!
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Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:09 pm

Spraying the lip surely?!

Looking good tho! Major respect the chosen route, just gotta go embarrass some 325i's now :twisted:
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Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:34 pm

cheers dude, yeah defo spraying the lip! just had to stick it on there as it is too see it all together again.
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