audi quattro engine in to a beemer - possible? Dunnit?

[knobstar]

As per title really - I have an audi quattro turbo engine but want to put it in to something rwd that handles well and has old skool-ish looks...hence arriving at this forum

Thanks,

Matt

[fuzzy]

is this the original wide body 80's quattro ?

[knobstar]

Yeah - it's a 10 valve 2144cc turbo engine from an '84 quattro...

[E30BeemerLad]

anything is possible and the 5 pot throb/ warble is amazing. What gearbox do you have in mind?

[Rosc0PColtrane]

The Quattro running gear would be amazing, if you could fabricate that on to an E30. You have the transmission tunnel after all!

Get the running gear sorted and you'd have your very own E30 quattro. With just the engine, it's just an Audi powered e30.......

Make that an E30 Quattro Turbo!!

[knobstar]

anything is possible and the 5 pot throb/ warble is amazing. What gearbox do you have in mind?

It's the noise i'm in love with, though i'm clueless as to which gearbox to use. I thought maybe an adaptor plate to the existing e30 box or maybe looking at the possibility of the box etc from a porker 924 or 944...though that'd could potentially upset the balance of the car and therefore the handling......or am i talking $hit and the porker 924/944s have a transaxle the same as bmws?

Ramble over

[E30BeemerLad]

porkers have the transaxle with the torque tube.

[Jon_Bmw]

Can you not get a 20v lump in there?

[knobstar]

Lol - I'm sure you could, and maybe at a later date, but a 10V's what i got atm!

I'm SURE someone will have put a either a 10V or a 20V in a beemer of some shape - noone heard of anything?!

[knobstar]

porkers have the transaxle with the torque tube.

Yar but I think the bolt pattern at the torque tube take-off at the engine is way different to the audi engine so might have to scrub that idea!

[nickso]

have you measured it to see if it fits? quite a long engine isnt it? looking at the way it was stuffed into the original car it might be a difficult conversion.

[knobstar]

hmm tis a good point - i guess my thinking was that the beemers have 6 cylinders in a line so 5 should fit...

What does a 2.5 measure lengthways? I'll compare that to my engine, then.

[fuzzy]

itll work but how deep are your pockets?

[glenn]

anything is possible.
what gearbox do you have?
it might be easier to do away with thinking about powering the front wheels, and just use the quattro gearbox to power the rear wheels.
these engines are only 200bhp, standard, you can get that from an m50, agreed you wont get the noise though

[knobstar]

I have the gearbox that came out of the car with it, though I'm unsure how you'd lock the centre diff to just power the back wheels and, indeed, not power the front ones! It's just rwd i'm interested in, trust me!

[charlE30]

Could you not just do away with the centre diff and get a custom prop made to mate up the audi gearbox to the E30 rear diff??

[ric325i]

i guess its a case of finding a rear wheel drive audi with the same bolt pattern as the quattro lump? should be possible thanks to the germans being clever. could an m20 box mount up?

tell you what you could do.......email PPC magazine. they love a challenge and would prob put your email in the mag?

Question (with more details etc)
what gear box, clutch etc could be used to fit a UR quattro lump into a rear drive chassis like an e30?

they like there bmw's and they like the quattro's, they must have thought of it? failign that they might buy the lump from you

[knobstar]

lol - i do love the mag and it's actually the editor (Will) that the lump is from...

My latest thought is a box from an LT (last style before the crafters) which have straight 5 diesels with (i'm 99% sure) the same bolt pattern as my audi lump with a custom propshaft to a beemer rear diff (didn't realise until recently that it's not the ENTIRE box at the back on e30s The boxes should be plentiful as they're the same as thos in merc sprinter vans

[glenn]

My latest thought is a box from an LT (last style before the crafters) which have straight 5 diesels with (i'm 99% sure) the same bolt pattern as my audi lump

if the box has the same bolt pattern, that would be a good solution !
keep us updated
glenn

[e21Jason]

Hi

You can get a ford type 9 to VAG (current gen engines 1.8t etc) bellhousing, so you need to find what the bellhousing pattern is, or cut & shut and audi & bmw box.

Jason

[Kev-G]

I thought that the engine Will (PPC) removed from his car had worn bores + you can't readily get pistons for the 10v Turbo engine?

[knobstar]

It's the 10V engine I bought off him as opposed to the mullered 20V bottom end that he's currently stuck with...

[dannyboy759]

I was thinking about trying a 1.9TDi engine

[ric325i]

[quote="knobstar"]lol - i do love the mag and it's actually the editor (Will) that the lump is from...quote]



guess you need to find that gearbox and match it against it?

are you going to try fitting it into an e30 then? or are you still thinking about it?

[knobstar]

I'm still thinking about it, though I'm pricing an LT/Sprinter box from a five cylinder currently and going from there....need to measure an e30 box to see what the difference in propshaft length would be i.e. if I was to connect the two. Then i'll decide how to mount the engine ....again, I have no idea where the mounts are on beemer engines lol! It's going to be an adventure and it 'may' take some time

[ric325i]

it might be a case of getting the lump in place and then making the mounts. its how i made mine but that was a bmw engine in a bmw.

geab box mounts will be easy.

you will need to know teh width of teh front end of the sprinter prop and see if you can just join them to a e30 prop to use the diff.

you wanna see some e30 engine mounts just click on my thread (link below, page 2) and you will see my m30 mounts i bought from beefy. give you an idea of where they are.