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E30 M3 V10

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 9:42 pm
by KW355
Finally got a chance to road test the new brakes after fitting the bias pedal box, a definite improvement in feel without the servo.
I had a bit of a problem with the ews going out of alignment with the engine ecu following some wiring work I did behind the dash.
Glenn drove to Birmingham this weekend to plug the car in to his laptop to realign the ews. To say I was grateful is an understatement, top service, much better than BMW !
It was good to drive the car again, I had almost forgotten how rapid it is :)

Re: E30 M3 V10

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:30 pm
by glenn
no problem keith, glad I could help.

get some pics up. I look forward to seeing how this car evolves.
it did look good yesterday 8)

Oh, and I forgot to say, I love the new reg.... :twisted:

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:12 pm
by KW355
I have finally finished off the brakes, I have changed the rear e30 M3 discs to grooved tarox ones, rebuilt the rear calipers and changed all the pads to ebc ultimax road pads. I have left the front e46 bmw M3 brake setup alone as the discs are within their wear tolerance.
The brakes do require a good shove with the servo removed but the force required seems reasonable to me.
I have run the brakes on a mot brake tester and the bias seems o.k. without a rear compensator valve, I have just given a bit of 'lead' on the bias pedal box towards the front.
The following photos were taken before the calipers were reconditioned and painted black.


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Mishimoto e36 M3 rad install

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:58 pm
by KW355
I have just finished installing an e36 M3 Mishimoto rad in the car.
The car had an original BMW e36 M3 rad in it, there was nothing wrong with it and the coolant temperatures were fine but I liked the sound of the extra 30% cooling capacity.
The rad fitted in nicely as Glenn had already made the bottom mounts.
To fit this in a standard car all you need to do is fabricate a couple of bottom mounts on the chassis rails where the rubber mounts sit on the bottom of the rad.
I modified the original e30 top mount to suit.
I renewed all the hoses with a mixture of genuine BMW and silicon hoses.
This was a difficult job as the M5 engine has two flow and return hoses and the e36 rad only has one of each resulting in the use of lots of connectors and tee pieces etc in a small space.
The car sits for longer in traffic now before the fan cuts in and the fan hardly comes on at all when moving.
I installed a piece of cardboard on the front of the rad to protect the fins whilst I did the trial fitting after spending an hour straightening them out after I dented some of them !


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I went to a breakfast meet at Shelsley walsh hillclimb today, It was funny seeing peoples reactions as they saw it has a v10 fitted. Mostly they went through a similar routine consisting of saying ****ing hell, then calling their mates over, followed by photographs :D
They were all very complimentary of the engine installation and the car in general with some people saying that it would be the car what they would take home given the choice.

Re: Mishimoto e36 M3 rad install

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:31 pm
by S38B38
E30 M3 S85 is the greatest of all NA engine swap from BMW

well done :cool:

Re: Mishimoto e36 M3 rad install

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:49 pm
by glenn
KW355 wrote: It was funny seeing peoples reactions as they saw it has a v10 fitted. Mostly they went through a similar routine consisting of saying ****ing hell, then calling their mates over, followed by photographs :D
:lol:
that would've been good to see keith...

car is looking awesome now

Re: Mishimoto e36 M3 rad install

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:59 pm
by Cypriotgeeza
:drool:

I still cant get my head around a V10 in an E30 :mad:

Mine is a handful as it is I cant imagine what fun that is to put through its paces!

:thumb:

Re: Mishimoto e36 M3 rad install

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:41 pm
by KW355
It went through it's M.O.T yesterday with no advisories which was a relief, the new brakes tested a t 98% which was good after all the work that went in to them.
I am in the process of changing the p.a.s. pump and piping, after that I am planning to refurb the wheels.

Re: Mishimoto e36 M3 rad install

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:26 pm
by glenn
brilliant news keith.

Re: Mishimoto e36 M3 rad install

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:55 am
by daboy3000
Photos please!!

Re: Mishimoto e36 M3 rad install

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:54 am
by bmwbmwbmw
more pics of the car please

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:40 pm
by KW355
The bargain ebay p.a.s. pump seems to work fine, I also changed all the pipework and the belt while I was at it, I have also sorted a few electrical bits and pieces.
I am currently refurbing the wheels, this is taking an unbelievable amount of hours due to the intricacy of the centre design, also metal polishing takes ages to prepare the outer lip if it is pitted or marked.
After much deliberation I went for Alpina 'sparkle silver' which has a heavy metallic to it, what do you all think, should I have gone for the 'evo' look or silver or something else ?

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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:32 am
by appletree
Look nice but what happened to the Hartge split rims Glenn had for it?

Re: Mishimoto e36 M3 rad install

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:49 pm
by rix313
KW355 wrote:
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Holy mother.....

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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:21 pm
by glenn
appletree wrote:Look nice but what happened to the Hartge split rims Glenn had for it?
Keith didn't want them , and eventually 'fmh' off here bought them.
Looking back I should have kept them in case I decided to get another e30 m3....
Which I've started to get an itch for lately :wink:

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:10 pm
by singlezero
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Beautiful car! :cool:

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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:11 pm
by NL-BMW
Very Nice & that engine :mad: :mad: :mad:

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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:15 pm
by Imjamesy
This is insane! Is there an in-depth build thread?
Lovely car bud.

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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:25 pm
by glenn
Imjamesy wrote:This is insane! Is there an in-depth build thread?
Lovely car bud.
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=184887

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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:58 pm
by TheMeathead
An amazing machine and a credit to you. Love the attention to detail.

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:44 pm
by KW355
I have finally sorted the misfire out that the car had when it was at Gaydon. This required much investigation ( ten cylinders to diagnose !) At first I thought the problem was electrical so I swapped the coil packs around and the ionic knock sensors around and also fitted new plugs.
Then I did a bore scope on that cylinder bank which revealed nothing untoward.
Finally I found the injector on cylinder 5 was blocked and only injecting about 30% of what it should, bringing the knock / misfire sensor in to play and shutting down cylinder 5.
I brought a new injector, cleaned the others and fitted all new 'o' rings. I also fitted an extra temporary fuel filter next to the fuel rail.
The car fired up fine and after resetting the fault the fault code did not reappear, a test drive revealed the full 507bhp was back
I have finished painting the wheels for now and have a few things I would like to get done before the Santa Pod show.
It was good to meet the zoners at the Gaydon show, hopefully I wont break the car again before Santa Pod.





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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:08 pm
by Cypriotgeeza
:drool:

The wheels + Car is spot on man! I wouldn't change a thing aesthetically any more if I was you! :thumb:

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:17 pm
by Rav335uk
I hope it's quicker than 85mph now :D

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:30 pm
by DanThe
Great news, will you be tickling the pedal up the 1/4 mile at Santa Pod? :D

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:24 pm
by bigbird76
Glad its sorted and hopefully will be nice to hear that roar up the 1/4 mile..

Leigh

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:51 pm
by KW355
Rav335uk wrote:I hope it's quicker than 85mph now :D
I doubt if it could keep up with your 316 even with 10 cylinders :D

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:55 pm
by KW355
Cypriotgeeza wrote::drool:

The wheels + Car is spot on man! I wouldn't change a thing aesthetically any more if I was you! :thumb:
Thanks, I plan to keep it as it is apart from an evo 2 front spoiler, I still have several cosmetic jobs to do on it, for example repainting the passenger window surrounds etc.

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:00 pm
by KW355
DanThe wrote:Great news, will you be tickling the pedal up the 1/4 mile at Santa Pod? :D
Dan, I would be interested to see what it would do the 1/4 mile in but I think I would probably break something !

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:01 pm
by Nobby_N
Wow! :D

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:17 pm
by DanThe
KW355 wrote:
DanThe wrote:Great news, will you be tickling the pedal up the 1/4 mile at Santa Pod? :D
Dan, I would be interested to see what it would do the 1/4 mile in but I think I would probably break something !
Thats why I put 'tickle' the throttle :)
Pull away normally and then give it the boot, would be worth it just to see the terminal speed! Don't worry about breaking things plenty of people take tools and I always take spare driveshafts now :D

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:31 pm
by glenn
DanThe wrote:
KW355 wrote:
DanThe wrote:Great news, will you be tickling the pedal up the 1/4 mile at Santa Pod? :D
Dan, I would be interested to see what it would do the 1/4 mile in but I think I would probably break something !
Thats why I put 'tickle' the throttle :)
Pull away normally and then give it the boot, would be worth it just to see the terminal speed! Don't worry about breaking things plenty of people take tools and I always take spare driveshafts now :D
I'd love to see a vid of it going up the strip 8)
talking of it's terminal speed,
the morning keith picked it up, I had taken it to put a bit of fuel in it ready for keith, and on my way back home I gave it a last blast (cough** at a local airfield),
I was wondering why the steering was starting to feel 'light', when I glanced at the speedo, to see the needle pointing exactly at 6 o'clock!

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:59 pm
by KW355
glenn wrote:on my way back home I gave it a last blast (cough** at a local airfield),
I was wondering why the steering was starting to feel 'light', when I glanced at the speedo, to see the needle pointing exactly at 6 o'clock!

160mph is about five o'clock on the M3 speedo !

An e60 m5 V10 will apparently do 200mph delimited, I wonder what this car would do flat out with e30 aerodynamics?

I can confirm that is still pulling like a train at 150mph (on Track of course )

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:10 pm
by glenn
KW355 wrote:

160mph is about five o'clock on the M3 speedo !
I know, lol, it was way past the numbers!, the speedo was probably optimistic,
but still, it was going......!

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:45 pm
by appletree
Didn't the black one off the M5board videos "M3v10 'V' Porsche/Ferrari/Lamborghini" have something like 175mph on his "track box" thing?

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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:30 pm
by JimM3
Sent you a PM re. Evo 2 spoiler.
Jim.