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Jim's Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:54 pm
by Jim320i
iiz brought a mtecks sports
And its a Turd
Purchased from zoner 'lukec88', its not my usual kinda thing in terms of look and its got LOTS of issues
But... Its a Sport init...
Engine is running as rough as anything and kicking out some black smoke, the suspension doesnt work

The front springs are 100% compressed down

and the rear is lower.
It has lots of scabs and rusty parts, but nothing too major apart from 'scuttle bubble'.
Apart from that, I do like it

Plan is to raise the suspension with some Eibach's, sort the engine out but the bottom end does sound like its fuuuucked so another engine will be going in.
Thinking of putting some nice 'balloon' tyres on it too, slightly bigger on the rear.
Front grill is already back to chrome, as are the smoked indicators on the front and sides.
Rav's smoked lights will be replaced with originals and headlight wipers refitted as they have been removed.
Thinking of getting it back on the road for a couple of months just to see if I find anymore issues before the harsh january snows comes.
In the mean time, i'll also be slowly tidying up inside the arches and making everything look nice and clean as I go
Got back with it last night, was way to late t get it off the trailer so Kedge was up first thing with a poking stick to help find rust and to have a nosey.
Was fun getting it on the trailer too, wouldnt start and no tow eye so have to get it on using the starter... But it was slightly low

not sure how as I was in the car but my dad and luke got the trailer to the right angle and we got it on.
Front
Switched some bits
Didnt have any L&B's so Kedge's phone would have to do
Next to a standard height chromie
Kedge taking it for some diffing... Couldnt get it off the drive though as the sump is slightly low

So he managed to diff it on the gravel
I havent had a go in it yet but will do tomorrow
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:58 pm
by suchy
Haha Jim you're now a c*nt like the other Sport owners
Can you not just rebuild the engine and keep the numbers matching? Get that susp. sorted and enjoy

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:04 pm
by Jim320i
suchy wrote:Haha Jim you're now a c*nt like the other Sport owners
Can you not just rebuild the engine and keep the numbers matching? Get that susp. sorted and enjoy

I do feel a bit more cuuntish now I own one. Im not a fan of Tech 2's, or facelifts for that matter, I like Chromies and thats about it. But this isnt too bad and Ive still not done much with the chromie...
Engine, I'm not sure, to be honest, I'm not sure if im knowledgable enough to rebuild the engine, but I could take the bottom end of another one and staple them together easy enough. I'm also thinking costs, I dont want to spend a fortune rebuilding an engine and would rather just stick another lump in.
Sports have no 'appeal' for me in the sense of preserving the original engine as its a sport.
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:04 pm
by capri_rob
Get diffin bruv

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:09 pm
by suchy
Jim320i wrote:suchy wrote:Haha Jim you're now a c*nt like the other Sport owners
I do feel a bit more cuuntish now I own one.

awesome, just need the smugness and superiority to permeate though, and you will be complete... a smug deluded c*nt with airs of grandeur

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:11 pm
by Jim320i
I look forward to going to meets and shows and only talking to other Tech 2 owners... And the Drifters

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:11 pm
by Rav335uk
Jim'll have new mates now, Kieran and Barry
Oh, i'll have my lights back too, as I only loaned them to Luke.

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:17 pm
by tonybtonyb
That's a nice bruv rider Jim it looks like you already have the engine in the boot.. lol

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:35 pm
by Jim320i
Rav335uk wrote:Jim'll have new mates now, Kieran and Barry
Oh, i'll have my lights back too, as I only loaned them to Luke.

Aha... Jim... Mates... That doesnt work in a sentance
Neither of the above had messaged to welcome me to the elite club yet. Matt has

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:37 pm
by DanThe
Frag the turd and let justice be served

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:43 pm
by Rav335uk
Jim320i wrote:Rav335uk wrote:Jim'll have new mates now, Kieran and Barry
Oh, i'll have my lights back too, as I only loaned them to Luke.

Aha... Jim... Mates... That doesnt work in a sentance
Neither of the above had messaged to welcome me to the elite club yet. Matt has

The only reason Matts said something nice, is because he's taking his apart, and he's worried it'll be worse than yours

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:45 pm
by Jim320i
Rav335uk wrote:Jim320i wrote:Rav335uk wrote:Jim'll have new mates now, Kieran and Barry
Oh, i'll have my lights back too, as I only loaned them to Luke.

Aha... Jim... Mates... That doesnt work in a sentance
Neither of the above had messaged to welcome me to the elite club yet. Matt has

The only reason Matts said something nice, is because he's taking his apart, and he's worried it'll be worse than yours

No, its because i'm going to take part in its destruction and reconstruction for no charge, thats why hes being nice

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:46 pm
by DanThe
Rav335uk wrote:Jim320i wrote:Rav335uk wrote:Jim'll have new mates now, Kieran and Barry
Oh, i'll have my lights back too, as I only loaned them to Luke.

Aha... Jim... Mates... That doesnt work in a sentance
Neither of the above had messaged to welcome me to the elite club yet. Matt has

The only reason Matts said something nice, is because he's taking his apart, and hopes some of the rusty bits still exist in yours
EFA!

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:48 pm
by Speedtouch
I'd carry out a compression test before condemning the bottom end. How many miles has it (allegedly) done?
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:49 pm
by Meatballs82
Bit of both actually!

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:49 pm
by Rav335uk
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:55 pm
by Jim320i
146,000 from memory or there abouts. The sump has been replaced quite a few times from being cracked, Luke might be able to confirm for me if he spots in.
But since the last time he said the bottom end has been knocking. It didnt sound smart once Me & Kedge got it running earlier on.
I'll have to pick up a compression kit to test it unless my old man has one, but might just buy one anyway
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:58 pm
by Rav335uk
Jim, building the engine isn't really that hard or difficult it there's a bunch of you.
Hell, i'm doing most of mine on my own.

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:03 pm
by Speedtouch
You may be able to get away with just dropping the sump and slipping in some new shells, if the bottom end turns out to be worn. It would be good to keep the original engine if possible.
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:07 pm
by Jim320i
Speedtouch wrote:You may be able to get away with just dropping the sump and slipping in some new shells, if the bottom end turns out to be worn. It would be good to keep the original engine if possible.
Would a compression test indicate this or would that be a visual inspection? I honestly have no clue on this part

I can do what needs to be done when I know though
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:13 pm
by kieran325
Welcome to the club Jim
Do you feel elite now ??
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:14 pm
by Jim320i
kieran325 wrote:Welcome to the club Jim
Do you feel elite now ??
No

Still reminds me of a Ford Ka

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:19 pm
by bss325i
Welcome to the SSCC!
This is the one with a ghetto slam and undersized tyres that a few of us told Luke to put some normal springs on it and some 205/55's to cure the rubbing issues and habit of killing sumps*
*Maybe why the bottom end is knocking?

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:21 pm
by Rav335uk
Told ya JIM, NEW MATES

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:21 pm
by kieran325
Express ya feelings Jim and acknowledge the fact you've joined the welded up shitters club and embrace them feelings as you cruise through Leicester with Matt

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:27 pm
by Jim320i
bss325i wrote:Welcome to the SSCC!
This is the one with a ghetto slam and undersized tyres that a few of us told Luke to put some normal springs on it and some 205/55's to cure the rubbing issues and habit of killing sumps*
*Maybe why the bottom end is knocking?

Indeed Barry
Tyres are still undersized and the springs are still very low. The camber is also pretty angled so new bushes will be also put onto the rear when I get round to doing that part, although the tyres will be a larger profile than standard I think on the rear.
Rav335uk wrote:Told ya JIM, NEW MATES

Ive already deletd you mobile number to make space for new ones

I should have close to 14 numbers soon I hope
kieran325 wrote:Express ya feelings Jim and acknowledge the fact you've joined the welded up shitters club and embrace them feelings as you cruise through Leicester with Matt

On the next meet, we'll have to make sure we all park near each other and wear matching tshirts
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:28 pm
by Rav335uk
Want some Recaro LS seats Jim

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:29 pm
by Kedge
Only thing that's surprising about this sorry turd is it didn't come from Birmingham!!
I only drove it a hundred yards or so, never experienced handling like it. Even just maneuvering you could feel everything bottom out, no idea how it was driven/diffed anywhere!
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:32 pm
by kieran325
Rav335uk wrote:Told ya JIM, NEW MATES

If you got a decent spec'd E30 then you might have mates!
Ignore him Jim, you've took another step on the ladder to being a snob.
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:39 pm
by Jim320i
kieran325 wrote:Rav335uk wrote:Told ya JIM, NEW MATES

If you got a decent spec'd E30 then you might have mates!
Ignore him Jim, you've took another step on the ladder to being a snob.
Kieran, i'm so far up my own arse I can smell my own breath

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:50 pm
by Rav335uk
Jim320i wrote:kieran325 wrote:Rav335uk wrote:Told ya JIM, NEW MATES

If you got a decent spec'd E30 then you might have mates!
Ignore him Jim, you've took another step on the ladder to being a snob.
Kieran, i'm so far up my own arse I can smell my own breath

Oh dear, look Jim, he's sticking up for you already
kieran325 wrote:Express ya feelings Jim and acknowledge the fact you've joined the welded up shitters club and embrace them feelings as you cruise through Leicester with Matt

Jim320i f u ck buddy wrote:On the next meet, we'll have to make sure we all park near each other and wear matching tshirts
You'll be wearing these at meets next.

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:00 pm
by Speedtouch
Jim320i wrote:Speedtouch wrote:You may be able to get away with just dropping the sump and slipping in some new shells, if the bottom end turns out to be worn. It would be good to keep the original engine if possible.
Would a compression test indicate this or would that be a visual inspection? I honestly have no clue on this part

I can do what needs to be done when I know though
A compression test will let you know the state of the bores and valves - all six should read roughly equal, at 160-180 psi or so. To test for bore wear, squirt some oil down the bore - if the compression briefly increases, either the piston rings are worn or stuck, or there is bore wear.
The best way of verifying bottom end rumble or knock is to run the engine and use a length of dowel or broom handle, used as a stethoscope held to your ear and prod about various parts of the crankcase to pinpoint where it might be coming from.
If you're sure it's knocking (and not just the ignition timing being miles out), whip the sump off and undo the bearing caps to inspect the shells. I gather that it's possible to replace the bearings with the engine in situ.
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:03 pm
by Rav335uk
If your going to remove the shells Jim, which isn't a bad job, let me know and i'll pop over to help.

Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:10 pm
by Jim320i
Rav335uk wrote:If your going to remove the shells Jim, which isn't a bad job, let me know and i'll pop over to help.


Cheers dude, always nice to have someone around when doing bits. By the off chance, if this is what needs replacing, are they expensive? The car itself has had a fair old bit done recently by Luke including service (cambelt and water pump) Head gasket been done too so hopefully the engine is saveable without it costing too much
@Speedtouch -

Thanks fella, i'll give the stick a try tomorrow if I get the chance and report back with what I find and in general with regards to the engine side of things
Re: Jim's Initbruv Sport
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:14 pm
by Rav335uk
No, shells for mine are about £80