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The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:53 am
by billgatese30
Once upon a time, there was a nice country gent called Dameon, who decided that the M20 donk in his peach of a 325 estate (sorry, I mean touring), just didn't cut the mustard.

So he went from this

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Through these stages

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and then he was finally left with this...

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At this point it was part of a magazine feature. It didn't fail to impress.

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He then decided to call it a day for his ownership of 'CDE' and sold up.


Then, a young entrepreneur with a penchant for very un-stylish sunglasses decided to take ownership of 'CDE'.

He had many a good time in CDE as he purchased it.

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He even made some improvements along the way

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Alas, he decided that his style was not befitting that of an estate car owner (sorry, touring) so inevitably, a new shell needed to be sourced.

A rather nice two door 318i Lux was found, and what a nice example it was too.

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So, the process of transferring 'CDE' over to its new skeleton began.

Out we go

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and et voila....one S50'd two door

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And then the now ex-'CDE' goes to the scrap yard in the sky

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Some more fettling and young Barry had a very very nice two door.

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This is where you humble narrator enters the story. I initially started talking to Barry about possibly buying a friends 320iS. The sale never came to fruition through several reasons beyond both the seller and my own control. Such is life, these things are sent to try us. However, it was a passing comment to Barry of ”awell, it’s a shame your not selling your S50”a which got us talking about money. A few more calls and a few weeks later I was on the 06:10 flight to Gatwick with a wedge of my hard earned. Less that 12 hours later I was back home, up north after visiting some old skool losers”¦sorry, I mean Zoners, as well as picking up a set of Recaro SR’s.

Here’s some pictures Barry took on the day of sale, which is how it was when I got it.

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In my time of ownership I mad many a good time in this fine chariot which, as you may have realised, is becoming affectionately known as CDE.

A lot of my more jovial moments included many a good time embarrassing Lotus Elise’s et al, on many a track day, wet or dry I may add.

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I had high hopes for this little machine. It was growing on me as a car, and I had thoughts of coilovers to eliminate some of the monsterous roll issues I was having (as you can see on the picture of me on three wheels). I also had thoughts of a twin master cylinder setup running a custom pedal box with no brake servo.

I got half way there accidentally, through no fault of my own, and whilst I had no servo assist, I also actually found my self with no brakes what so ever at one point. Unfortunately for me this happened mid lap on a trackday.

One master cylinder failure whilst approaching this corner at approximately 90 MPH.

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Resulted in this”¦oops

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Basically I had stopped from 85-90 MPH to 0 MPH in just over half a car’s length. My helmet managed to take up a lot of the impact of me headbutting the steering wheel, however, padding can only compress so far and with me having a rather large nose to start with, this resulted in me squashing it, quite heavily, against the front of the helmet. Result”¦one broken nose and me looking even more of an ugly twat than usual for a few days.

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I was suprised how well the standard E30 cabin managed to stand up to the impact considering I managed to open the door and exit the vehicle unassisted, although I was a little dazed, I didn’t lose consciousness at all.

Before impact, whilst only being a few seconds, I had what seemed like more than enough time to think things through rationally. Arm’s at 3 & 9 o’clock on the wheel, thumbs not hooked over the wheel, feet back away from the pedals as lets face it, with no brakes putting my feet to the fire wall wasn’t doing any good, even for morale. My final thoughts were ”aright, this is going to hurt. Relax; if I’m tense it’ll hurt even more. That’s the sound of kitty litter and I can almost see the individual blades of grass on the hill behind the tire wall, I think its time to close my eyes before I hit it.”a And with that, bang.

My first thoughts upon opening my eyes after the sound of kitty litter bouncing off the bottom of the car quickly followed by that sickening crunch of plastic I’m sure a lot of you have sadly experienced; along with the thud of my face hitting the steering wheel, was one of much relief. The first thing that passed my mind was not the pain in my nose, the taste of blood in my mouth, or the fact that I needed to drive the car home that evening; but one of the fact that I was not on fire”¦hooray, I have all the time in the world then.

Time for a quick damage check, arms and legs all in tact and in working order, no sore neck/back, nothing trapped, nothing cut, no broken glass, how cool was this.

Right then, ignition off, helmet off, door open ready to stumble out onto the kitty litter to be greeted by a rather worried looking Marshall. With a slightly nervous smile he asks if I’m ok and I get whisked away to the medical centre for a quick check over. Many thanks to the Marshalls and track crew, all of them did a blinding job of sorting the track, my car and I in a very quick, safe and professional manner.

Upon returning to the paddock I go and investigate the car. Its quite clearly fucked, something which I was in very little doubt of before I was even in eye sight of it.

Some more pics of the damage, and of the cabin.

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The search for a new shell began. I had my heart set on something pre-facelift. Something with style and class, but also that was solid, the last thing I needed was a fully blown shell resto before I even thought about swapping engines/drivetrain.

Some hours were spent pulling the front end out of the car to try and salvage what I could such as air conditioning pipes etc.

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This is where the project ground to a halt. Finding a good shell was proving difficult. Particularly a chrome bumper pre-facelift model”¦.damn.

Alas, a solution was just around the corner. I knew of a black M3 shell which was available, no engine and box was present which meant less work, and less cost. With me being a tight northerner living on gravy and brown ale, this was also a plus point.

However, this shell needed far too much work for me, although a lot of the panels were there, scuttle, front and rear panels all needed doing, as well as front wings and then it would of all needed spraying too. Far too much work for a man as busy as myself. But, much like my purchase of CDE, it was talking to the seller in which I managed to pick up the new shell for CDE to be transplanted into. This shell is mint, and I mean mint. Yipee.

I’ll let the pics do the talking.

An empty engine bay”¦woohoo, less work for me

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And that’s the tale so far. I did warn you in the title, this was a bit of a saga, but hey ho, hopefully you enjoyed it so far”¦now that hard work begins.


Enjoy.

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:54 am
by billgatese30
Also, this has got to be worth a prize for the Zone's longest single post. :D

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:55 am
by billgatese30

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:20 am
by Kos
fuck!

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:21 am
by /// KAMI
bloody hell that was a bit of a hit....as long as your ok mate cars dont really matter....the new shell is :cool:

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:26 am
by Kos
were you wearing a 4 point harness ? and was your crash helmet open or closed face ?

just read throught all your post. glad to see you have new shell sorted and you are ok.

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:42 am
by pukar
onwards and upwards mate...that m3 should be :cool:

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:52 am
by Steve
A M3 shell :D you said you picked up a nice little 2 door :P

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:34 am
by DanThe
Staying red then :D

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:06 pm
by ImysE30
3rd time lucky hopefully :)

Shell looks good, another S50'd M3 :cool:

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:33 pm
by Felix79
Nice post. Will the M3 be staying LHD or will you convert it over to RHD?

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:45 pm
by clarko74
Good to hear you survived without any major injuries. Shame to see the 2 door die like that, it was a lovely car, the first time I met Barry he had just finished the conversion.

Is the new shell young enough to transfer the CDE plate to?

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:56 pm
by billgatese30
Steve wrote:A M3 shell :D you said you picked up a nice little 2 door :P
It has two doors doesn't it :D.

Shell is a h reg so the plate will be ok.


Unfortunately this is my 3rd e30, and all 3 have been h reg brilliant red w doors!

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:01 pm
by maxfield
Shame about the 2 door but onwards and upwards

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:09 pm
by Jhonno
Another joins the ranks.. :cool:

Keeping it LHD I hope.. Nevermind the gay RHD M3 nonsense thing.

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:18 pm
by jaistanley
Ouch!

It warms my cockles to know the E30 stood up to that pounding, though something tells me the gravel trap and tyre wall did a lot to save you. I wouldn't fancy my chances crashing mine into anything on the public roads...

If you get stuck at all with the conversion and think I can help, give me a shout. There's lots of bits and bobs in my build thread too.

Good luck, and I hope that M3 shell is as soild as the pictures make it look. I'd sell my right arm for an M3 to drop my engine and running gear into, but unfortunately my sex life would suffer....

Regards,

Jai

Oh and RHD M3 for the win, purists are gayers.

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:47 pm
by billgatese30
No fears ladies. This is not going to become some lesbionic abortion RHD turd.

LHD all the way. :cool:

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:10 pm
by Kos
Kos wrote:were you wearing a 4 point harness ? and was your crash helmet open or closed face ?

just read throught all your post. glad to see you have new shell sorted and you are ok.
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Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:21 pm
by billgatese30
Just a normal seat belt kos. Harnesses may have saved my face but give me some hellish whiplash. I was also using recaro SR's and I don't like the idea of harnesses without a fixed back seat.

Helmet was full face, but my head compressed the padding as it is supposed to, but that added with the deformation of the outer shell on impact and my nose hit the inside of the helmet where there is no padding in front of your nose/mouth.

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:20 pm
by Felix79
Will you be putting a roll cage in this one ?

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:22 pm
by billgatese30
Scaffolding is for gays

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:26 pm
by Felix79
billgatese30 wrote:Scaffolding is for gays
8O

I don't know if your mad or your mental :P

After seeing 2 threads about people having some big offs it is testiment to the quality of the e30's design.

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:43 pm
by gareth
I don't know if your mad or your mental :P
Both! :)

Nice writeup :) You do know E30's are available in other colours? :P

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:57 pm
by bss325i
RESPECT! :D

I didnt even think M3 shell when you said you'd sorted a red LHD 2dr shell! Didnt even twig!

LONG LIVE CDE!!! :D :D :D :rock: :woohoo:

Oh and my sunglasses rock!

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:20 pm
by billgatese30
bss325i wrote: Oh and my sunglasses rock!
Dude, the white wayfarers looked painted on from a distance, Gareth and I initially thought someone had attacked you with Tippex :lol:

I did wonder if anyone would twig when I was talking about a LHD 2 door :D

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:20 pm
by pacerpete
MMM that M3 looks familiar ! :)

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:31 pm
by billgatese30
It should do :D

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:51 pm
by bss325i
:squint: I recognise those shiny air con condensor bolts! :wink:

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:08 pm
by beardymat
Glad you got it home ok Chris, must have been a long day with the stop at mine along the way.

LHD is no hassle once you get used to it and adapt your driving a little, makes it more fun especially with 300 ponies attatched to your right foot.

Do you have a spare air con heater box there Chris? i noticed the M3 has aircon and since ive just dropped my climate box on the floor whilst trying to clean it up ready for fitting and broken some parts im in need of an aircon box for spares. Not happy after doing that but decided to come home in the M3 which cheered me up. :D

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:14 pm
by billgatese30
beardymat wrote:Glad you got it home ok Chris, must have been a long day with the stop at mine along the way.

LHD is no hassle once you get used to it and adapt your driving a little, makes it more fun especially with 300 ponies attatched to your right foot.

Do you have a spare air con heater box there Chris? i noticed the M3 has aircon and since ive just dropped my climate box on the floor whilst trying to clean it up ready for fitting and broken some parts im in need of an aircon box for spares. Not happy after doing that but decided to come home in the M3 which cheered me up. :D
I stayed down there Saturday night Matt, a few beers and some grub seemed better than a long haul back up North. Stopping at yours on the way down didn't add too much to be fair. It made for a handy breakfast stop on the M18. :D

I guess it does mean that I have a spare heater box I suppose. I'll give you a shout when I come to removing it, and/or when the shell is available as discussed. :D

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:34 pm
by glenn
pacerpete wrote:MMM that M3 looks familiar ! :)
christ pete....how many shells have you got there? :cool:

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:19 pm
by MrBenn
Nice turd! Hope you have more fun in her than I did :cool:

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:04 pm
by Dezzy
About time. I have been waiting for this thread for ages.

There are too many 24v M3's now! Will everyone stop building my dream car please. :(

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:18 pm
by charlie_ogden
pacerpete wrote:MMM that M3 looks familiar ! :)
Ah ha I've just found it, new I had seed it someplace! Very very tidy car.

Charlie

Re: The Bill Gates S50 saga, the tale of H6CDE

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:18 pm
by billgatese30
I'm sure I will Alex....eventually :D

Cheers Dezzy, sorry but it just had to be done :cool: