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Feens S50 Build....... She's Alive, First Start up vid Added
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:57 pm
by feens
Howdy, Ive had my e30 318IS for the Last 6 years, and its have a good, used life with me being on the road as my Daily for nearly 5 of those, when i Bought it it was a standard 318IS in brilliant pink (very faded paint) missing its front lip spoiler, I bought it off a guy in Tallagh (Dublin) handed over 950 euros and drove it home, it was also taxed and Nct'd:D
so then what to do with it, originally i didnt know, go euro or tech 2 kitted, after some head scratching i went tech 2, so stripped it down to the shell, it was very very clean so only needed very minor rust repairs, and it got a full respray in 05' along with replacing every bushing shocks, springs, brakes ect, all new stuff went in,
it engine had 102000 on it and pulled like a train but had no history, so i just monded it and serviced it every 4-5000 miles, it developed the deadly chain rattle at the start of this summer with 204,000 on the clock, and i replaced the tensioner, but it was only a temp fix and the chain and guides were worn, ond one day coming home from work it smashed the top guide on start up! so that was that, rebuild the M42 or conversion time,
i looked into the prices of rebuilding it, (I had a set of s50ITB's that were modified to fit the 318IS head) and to get full use of those id need to build it upto 2.1 alot of work and money to produce maybe 220BHP, cost outweighd the benefits,
So i Bought an S50b30 engine, box, ecu, all ancillary's needed from the donor car to do the conversion and its currently up in AC cars getting done by Dicko a genius at these conversions, hopefully soon enough ill have it back done and dusted:D
Progress so far:
Old Engine Coming out,

Dicko Hard at work:D
The Car is Filthy, ill have to keep it off building sites after this:o
Old Exhaust system off
DIY Rad pipe fixing,

(This is what happens when engine mounts let go)
My own subfame was badly cracked seems to be a problem with 4 pots, so I Got another front Subframe from a 6cylinder car and dicko set about re-enforcing it, as when a 1.8 can pull engine mounting points thru a subframe imagine what a 3.0l could do:eek:

New Brake Servo, smaller dual diaphram unit from a Renault Clio, smaller in size but will have good pedal feel, the servo also needs to be moved to the left on the bulkhead to clear it inlet plenum on the s50
Making the re-enforcing plates for the subframe
The Power steering mounts only come with 3 spot welds on them from the factory, so Dicko decided to seam weld them all around
Old Engine mounting points on the original subframe:eek:

All Brackets and fixing that were no longer needed were removed sanded and in primer waiting a lick of paint
Subframe finished awaiting some paint:D

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:01 pm
by feens
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:03 pm
by feens
[QUOTE=feens;145439]Dicko has been Hard at work with the exhaust manifolds and as you've herd had bother with them clearing the Z3 rack, but the man has a plan and is cracking on,
Brake Servo Mods done aswell
Dicko powered e30:D

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:08 pm
by feens
So As it Stands at the min, the Mainfolds are being finished off and mated to a Full New UUC Motorworks exhaust system, (e36 m3 item)
Ive a Set of Vmaxx Coilovers going in now aswell, along with all Bushings being changed, and Braided Brake and clutch hoses aswell, Ive a new Clutch kit and Oxygen sensors to go in courtesy of c3 BMW, (250 euros cheaper than the BMW Dealers here in Ireland for the same parts)
The Engine is cleaned down and paint stripped off awaiting its new colour scheme (not sure wat to do yet) Ill be running Standard Brakes for awhile with new Discs and Ferodo fast road pads until i do a Big Brake upgrade
Thamks For looking Brian
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:47 pm
by spook
Nice project you have Brian, nice to see lots of pics. Keep em coming,
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:16 pm
by DanThe
Another 24v
Cant believe the powahhh of the mighty iS will rip itself out of the subframe
3 sets of HID's?

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:42 pm
by Jamez
goodluck with the conversion, looks good so far.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:18 am
by feens
DanThe wrote:Another 24v
Cant believe the powahhh of the mighty iS will rip itself out of the subframe
3 sets of HID's?

Thats it Dan IS power just too much for this world

Keiran recons its down to 4 pot Vibrations as he's seen the same with another IS and an M3 whereas the 6 pot subframes were fine,
Ya ive HIDs in all the lamps mains heads and fogs

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:23 am
by FMH
feens wrote:
Ya ive HIDs in all the lamps mains heads and fogs

any pics of the driving lights and fogs on together?
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:55 am
by /// KAMI
Looking good pal should be great once done....good luck.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:26 am
by feens
FMH wrote:feens wrote:
Ya ive HIDs in all the lamps mains heads and fogs

any pics of the driving lights and fogs on together?
This is the only 1 i can fin at the moment i know ive another 1 somehere tho, this isnt the best one

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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:44 pm
by m4xos
looks good fella!! never seen a red tech 2 with cream leather and toplines!!

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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:41 pm
by feens
m4xos wrote:looks good fella!! never seen a red tech 2 with cream leather and toplines!!

Cheers Mate it was a strait swap for the IS interior which was a bonus, Its a Cab interior which i "made" fit the rear bench, but ive an M3 rear bench here ready for when i retrim the lot,
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:26 pm
by e302008
looking good

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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:55 pm
by SHAZ325iSPORT
very nice feens,lovely wheels

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:06 pm
by feens
SHAZ325iSPORT wrote:very nice feens,lovely wheels

Their Some Job shaz bought them off a coont in London

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:43 pm
by Baz666
Nice job fella

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:36 pm
by SHAZ325iSPORT
feens wrote:SHAZ325iSPORT wrote:very nice feens,lovely wheels

Their Some Job shaz bought them off a coont in London

lololol
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:55 pm
by feens
Cheers Lads, Progress is on the move again, the Engine is dropped in now, rocker cover need to be painted aswell, ill have more pic's shortly

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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:45 pm
by karimMSalama
the car look nice
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:34 pm
by e301988325i
feens wrote:Ill be running Standard Brakes for awhile with new Discs and Ferodo fast road pads until i do a Big Brake upgrade
Thamks For looking Brian
That's going to be a great car, although I fear for it's survival on stock anchors!
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:09 pm
by feens
e301988325i wrote:feens wrote:Ill be running Standard Brakes for awhile with new Discs and Ferodo fast road pads until i do a Big Brake upgrade
Thamks For looking Brian
That's going to be a great car, although I fear for it's survival on stock anchors!
They Wont be Stock for Long

I Like the Look of the WMS kit ive seen on here and seem to be upto the task,
I have new OEM Disc's and Ferodo pads all round , with new Goodrich Braided Hoses for the moment with a 23.5 VW Golf Brake Master Cylinder, (25mm Quattro item was 300 euros

)
I May Go 5 stud in the summer with e36 evo items like shaz has done so ill have better weel/braking options then
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:16 pm
by keri-WMS
feens wrote:They Wont be Stock for Long

I Like the Look of the WMS kit ive seen on here and seem to be upto the task
Cool looking project! What size are those wheels?

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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:14 pm
by jmc330i
Great looking car - from another 'brilliant pink' S50 owner
Ive just strengthened a spare subframe for mine so its all ready to swap when I overhaul the suspension this summer.
Did you use a particular paint for the subframe? I want a decent covering on mine so it doesnt rust to quick.
e301988325i wrote:feens wrote:Ill be running Standard Brakes for awhile with new Discs and Ferodo fast road pads until i do a Big Brake upgrade
That's going to be a great car, although I fear for it's survival on stock anchors!
Mine has been running on standard size brakes for the last 6 months of everyday use. They are fine if you drive normally, but a bit of fast road driving does heat them up damn quick

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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:38 pm
by e301988325i
Perhaps I should slow down if you guys can run with 300bhp on standard brakes

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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:59 pm
by jaistanley
Jesus. We fitted the S50 to Dan's car went out and turned E30M3 brakes blue all round! I wouldn't be risking 260mm penny stoppers. My 315's all round are ok, but I'm feeling the need for an upgrade!
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:18 pm
by jmc330i
e301988325i wrote:Perhaps I should slow down if you guys can run with 300bhp on standard brakes

Bhp is only really part to do with fading the brakes - 60mph is still 60mph whether youre in a 318i or 300bhp 325i turbo.
A higher bhp will obviously create more speed between corners for example, but then for a sensibly driven road going car that wont be a problem - you are less likely to be trying to slow the car from high speeds over and over like on a track.
Where the S50 conversion falls down (and is in need of better brakes), is on the extra weight of the engine which really gives the standard brakes a hard time under heavy braking. As I said, drive it hard and the brakes do suffer, but as an everyday car (that sticks to the speed limits etc) with decent discs, pads and fluid, the brakes are fine for the job.
Obviously, I havent fitted an S50 to my car to drive it slowly, so I am in the process of a brake upgrade for mine, but mainly because it will be seeing some track action this year - that I do not want to attempt on standard brakes
jaistanley wrote:Jesus. We fitted the S50 to Dan's car went out and turned E30M3 brakes blue all round!
Dont tell me that!

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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:54 pm
by feens
keri-WMS wrote:feens wrote:They Wont be Stock for Long

I Like the Look of the WMS kit ive seen on here and seem to be upto the task
Cool looking project! What size are those wheels?

Those wheels are 7.5x17' but i do have a set of Original 15' BBS'
That I intend to run on trackdays, (when ive the brakes done)
So possibly will be talking to u about something to fit behind them if i dont go 5 stud altogether!
I wont be driving the bag out of this car, too much time and money gone ito it to thrash it on standard brakes atleast
I thought e30M3 Brakes would be perfect for near 300 BHP?? maybe 5 stud with evo struts and brakes would be the only way to go so
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:49 pm
by keri-WMS
feens wrote:keri-WMS wrote:feens wrote:They Wont be Stock for Long

I Like the Look of the WMS kit ive seen on here and seem to be upto the task
Cool looking project! What size are those wheels?

Those wheels are 7.5x17' but i do have a set of Original 15' BBS'
That I intend to run on trackdays, (when ive the brakes done)
So possibly will be talking to u about something to fit behind them if i dont go 5 stud altogether!
I wont be driving the bag out of this car, too much time and money gone ito it to thrash it on standard brakes atleast
I thought e30M3 Brakes would be perfect for near 300 BHP?? maybe 5 stud with evo struts and brakes would be the only way to go so
We've done brackets for the E36 strut and 325mm discs (prototyped but waiting for test-fitting results - lines and clearance), but the same calipers fit both brackets!
ie, you can change from 4-stud to 5-stud (e36?) and keep the WMS calipers/lines/pads etc.
Just a thought, not sure how that ties in with the M3 struts though...?
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:54 pm
by feens
Good to know they can swap over, I would like to keep the original wheels and will be for the next while, ill have to save a few bob for a kit like yours, ive gone way over budget with this build!!!
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:59 pm
by keri-WMS
feens wrote:Good to know they can swap over, I would like to keep the original wheels and will be for the next while, ill have to save a few bob for a kit like yours, ive gone way over budget with this build!!!
heh heh - always the way!

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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:07 pm
by Jhonno
e36 m3 calipers work on e30 m3 struts..
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:08 pm
by Jhonno
jmc330i wrote:jaistanley wrote:Jesus. We fitted the S50 to Dan's car went out and turned E30M3 brakes blue all round!
Dont tell me that!

Need to call you back, was at work when you called me!
To be fair it was a few 130mph stops..

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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:01 pm
by jmc330i
Jhonno wrote:jmc330i wrote:jaistanley wrote:Jesus. We fitted the S50 to Dan's car went out and turned E30M3 brakes blue all round!
Dont tell me that!

To be fair it was a few 130mph stops..

I should be ok then. I dont need to stop from 130mph, just slow it down for the 50mph speed camera
Jhonno wrote:Need to call you back, was at work when you called me!
No worries dude. I thought you might be at work, but Im working very odd hours at the moment, so thought it was worth a try.
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:44 pm
by feens
More Progress,
Exhaust manifolds Done now, he's just putting in the Center section onto the UUC system,
Dicko has modified them all with equal Lenghts so there shouldnt be any loss of Power this way
As Soon as ive more Picture ill update again
Brian