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Hartge H27 piccies while the sun is out !!!

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:58 pm
by e30topless
I bought this earlier in the week after looking for a 2 door project for a while,
some zoners may remember it being on ebay and on pistonheads I rang the guy up he still had it so a deal was done over the phone

not really sure what it is :? or what to do with it !
I don't know if it is a hartge or if it is a replica, there is lots of paperwork including hartge booklets etc
the paint is a one off and was done by stripping to the bare shell approx 8 years ago the pics don't do it justice it is a very nice colour and it is growing on me !

it has been dry stored in a garage for over 5 years as a project the chap ran out of money so decided to sell
the pics are as it came to me ..there's lots of crap to be removed and it hasn't even had a wash yet !

any way here's the pics what do you think ?

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Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:05 am
by Simon13
i saw that on ebay, certainly looks like the engine maybe fettled in some form! Would take alot of effort to make it up to that spec collecting parts.

Does it run? Set of rims and off you go!

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:09 am
by Nath325i
I quite like that colour. If its the one i remember on pistonheads it looked liked it had some lovely overspray on the engine :) Still a nice looking E30 all the same.

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:10 am
by e30topless
it just about runs enough to move it around
the old petrol stinks badly and needs draining, had a 10 minute tinker with it today but had no time to get anything done, I feel like calling in a sickie tommorow and spending a day on it :)

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:10 am
by m4xos
looks good to me too!
:cool:
have you done a dvla check onit to see what it says?

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:11 am
by e30topless
Nath325i wrote:I quite like that colour. If its the one i remember on pistonheads it looked liked it had some lovely overspray on the engine :) Still a nice looking E30 all the same.
there's no overspray the pics didn't do it justice

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:11 am
by tinnaM42
al have the manifold and exhaust if ur breaking winkeye

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:18 am
by Nath325i
e30topless wrote:
Nath325i wrote:I quite like that colour. If its the one i remember on pistonheads it looked liked it had some lovely overspray on the engine :) Still a nice looking E30 all the same.
there's no overspray the pics didn't do it justice
Cool looks like a mighty nice buy then fella.

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:19 am
by e30topless
tinnaM42 wrote:al have the manifold and exhaust if ur breaking winkeye
not breaking this one jay sorry

and tell your dad thanks again for bringing it here the 4 hour journey home was a long one :(

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:25 am
by m4xos
tinna, got that service history given to be literally 5 mins ago, lol, so pm your address and ill send it for ya!!

e30topless, you going to let us know how much it was? lol, or shall i slyly pm tinna? lol

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:26 am
by bss325i
Amidst the stick on tat there are some tasty hartge morsels.

Whip the sump off and check that crank!

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:32 am
by Chase007
Nice buy cant wait to see it polished up. 8) :)

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:32 am
by cliffybabe
It looks like a gooden, The rocker cover alonme is worth enough

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:34 am
by LeonNewton
Looks ace man. Saw it for sale. Hope it brings mutch joy.

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:34 am
by Elecblondie
Whatever it is it looks gorgeous to me.

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:52 am
by tinnaM42
no probs al let him no steve
max pm on its way :D

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:58 am
by e30topless
bss325i wrote:Amidst the stick on tat there are some tasty hartge morsels.

Whip the sump off and check that crank!
barry I will be doing so as soon as i get the chance !

the first job is to remove the tat, rear light's will be changed to standard, hartge gearnob has been fitted I need to convert the sunroof to electric and remove the pedal covers . 8O

the shell is suprisingly solid apart from the battery tray that is fooked even though there is a battery in boot conversion done ?

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:01 am
by maxfield
You checked the ARBs?

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:36 am
by Theo
Nice air filter!

Any other Hartge bits fitted? Rear strut brace, anti roll bars, shocks, springs, 40% locking LSD etc

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:42 am
by HartgeH27
Look like the real thing.

Got the 2.7 kipper pipe rather than the 2.6 but as Barry says get the crank checked. Also open up the ECU and see if you have a Superchip in there. It will be handwritten on with 2.7 or whichever.

Looking forward to your call later today.

Iain

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:09 am
by Bob_S
who cares, shove some fuel in it, tax it, mot it, enjoy it!

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:52 am
by oakey
I really like this one! :cool: Very unusual.
Best of luck with it :)

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:23 pm
by SilverShadow
Theo325 wrote:Nice air filter!

Any other Hartge bits fitted? Rear strut brace, anti roll bars, shocks, springs, 40% locking LSD etc
I would be inclined to say yes it is a Hartge if any of the above parts are present.

Also check the crank!

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:19 pm
by Simon13
the battery will have been in the boot from the factory!

It's hardly a 5min job checking the crank as removing the sump in situ is a very sad job! Servicing the engine up and giving it some serious grief will soon tell what engine is fitted!

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:14 pm
by sweep
That rocker cover looks nice winkeye

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:37 pm
by e30topless
Theo325 wrote:Nice air filter!

Any other Hartge bits fitted? Rear strut brace, anti roll bars, shocks, springs, 40% locking LSD etc
not had chance to look yet :(
HartgeH27 wrote:Look like the real thing.

Got the 2.7 kipper pipe rather than the 2.6 but as Barry says get the crank checked. Also open up the ECU and see if you have a Superchip in there. It will be handwritten on with 2.7 or whichever.

Looking forward to your call later today.

Iain
I opened up the ecu and the chip is sealed in with some kind of wax I don't fancy picking it off incase I damage it :(

will call soon cheers

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:51 pm
by DanThe
You can measure the crank stroke through a plug hole with a wire coat hanger

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:13 pm
by e30topless
spent a few hours removing council tat tonight, looks lots better already
it seems the colour was origionally royal or atlantis blue !

I hope to get it jacked up and take a good look underneath in the next few days, this will decide it's fate 8O

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:18 pm
by armanib
I have them leathers

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:20 pm
by m4xos
e30topless wrote:spent a few hours removing council tat tonight, looks lots better already
it seems the colour was origionally royal or atlantis blue !

I hope to get it jacked up and take a good look underneath in the next few days, this will decide it's fate 8O
my mate just spotted it on pistonheads and was like...
"look at this, ill get this 2moz"

then i said.. a zoner had bought it and he was gutted lol..

whats the rust situations like?

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:21 pm
by e30topless
armanib wrote:I have them leathers
no you don't, they are still in my car I checked earlier

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:23 pm
by d6dph
He's probably only taking a few inches of leather at a time :D

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:24 pm
by armanib
e30topless wrote:
armanib wrote:I have them leathers
no you don't, they are still in my car I checked earlier
You may wana check again sorry i scratched the wing

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:24 pm
by e30topless
m4xos wrote:
e30topless wrote:spent a few hours removing council tat tonight, looks lots better already
it seems the colour was origionally royal or atlantis blue !

I hope to get it jacked up and take a good look underneath in the next few days, this will decide it's fate 8O
my mate just spotted it on pistonheads and was like...
"look at this, ill get this 2moz"

then i said.. a zoner had bought it and he was gutted lol..

whats the rust situations like?
the main parts are suprisingly good
scuttle, rear arches sills ect,
the battery tray needs first aid and the jacking points have been done

Re: my latest turd! is it a Hartge ?

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:25 pm
by e30topless
d6dph wrote:He's probably only taking a few inches of leather at a time :D
:lol: