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my e30 3.6 td project proper driving vid with exhaust page 7

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:53 pm
by 336tdse
my 1987 e30 325i. was gonna turbo it but seemed pointless as ive already got a 480 hp saph cossie so converting it to diesel instead :)
just got the engine run up today its a 3.6 td vm marine engine. 150 bhp 220 lbft. a few pics i took today.

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Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:56 pm
by Alex
awsome mate, good luck with it :thumb:

did you decide on what diff your going to use :D

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:57 pm
by cliffybabe
dude looks like a interesting project keep the pics coming :cool:

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:01 pm
by fuzzy
hi mate,and its a lovely looking 480bhp cossie you have :cool:
it looks a big old block that. why choose this engine ? purely because you had it available ?

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:31 pm
by 336tdse
fuzzy wrote:hi mate,and its a lovely looking 480bhp cossie you have :cool:
it looks a big old block that. why choose this engine ? purely because you had it available ?
yeah mate basically. its an engine from my childhood dad had it in an 87 rangerover and it caught fire but engine was kept about 10 years ago. lovely sounding engine loads of grunt. i remember everyone used to comment on the exhaust note and it used to do 110 mph in an auto 2500 kg car so with manual box and 1400 kg should do 130 hopefully with a 2.56 diff.

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:51 pm
by andrews
Very interesting! Diesel- is cool engine, but...
How much does your one weight?

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:44 pm
by 336tdse
andrews wrote:Very interesting! Diesel- is cool engine, but...
How much does your one weight?

its 200 kg heavier than the original engine.

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:02 pm
by aj_mckay
So, when is this chunk going in then? What are you planning to do about the increased weight up front? I know it's not exactly gonna be a high performance machine when it's done but presumably you'll need some rather heavy duty springs etc?? Interesting project though :thumb:

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:18 pm
by BigBavarian
Thats alot of weight to have out front. Some top fabriacting going on aswell to get it to fit...

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:23 pm
by Jhonno
Nice idea in principle I guess.. Can't see a 3.6 lump weighing 1/3-1/4 the cars weight being any use in performance handling or economy

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:36 pm
by richard-the-nutter
should have gone for the 2.5vm in my opinion much more suited and plenty fast enough, especially with a few tweeks and an intercooler :D

but you had the engine already so....

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:41 pm
by GrindCulture
Put it in the back!

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:57 pm
by fuzzy
200kg heavier than the original engine is going to seriously fook up the handling 8O

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:10 pm
by 336tdse
fuzzy wrote:200kg heavier than the original engine is going to seriously fook up the handling 8O
im literally gonna stick it in and push it to its limit and see how it feels. tbh not to bothered the engine sounds the nuts and free diesel :)

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:12 pm
by 336tdse
richard-the-nutter wrote:should have gone for the 2.5vm in my opinion much more suited and plenty fast enough, especially with a few tweeks and an intercooler :D

but you had the engine already so....

bin in a discovery that had the 2.5 its not a patch on this engine :)

the grunt and sound is awesome i love it.

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:12 pm
by fuzzy
free diesel? that sounds good to me. i pay £1 a gallon for diesel at the moment :D

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:15 pm
by 336tdse
aj_mckay wrote:So, when is this chunk going in then? What are you planning to do about the increased weight up front? I know it's not exactly gonna be a high performance machine when it's done but presumably you'll need some rather heavy duty springs etc?? Interesting project though :thumb:
its on very hard lowered springs anyway im about 14 - 15 stone and if i sit on the wing above wheel suspension dont move much. if needs be il fit some adjustable shocks and harder springs

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:16 pm
by 336tdse
fuzzy wrote:free diesel? that sounds good to me. i pay £1 a gallon for diesel at the moment :D
just keep an eye out for the ministry mate or you on cooking oil ?

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:21 pm
by 336tdse
had a bit of fettling today but engine is now finally sorted and running like a top :)
bmw is of the ramp and ready for engine to be lifted out hopefully tmrw.
justwana get bell housng and box on for a dummy run and make sure the enginewill fit. by my measurements
it will just go in. if its gonna fit gotta mod or change flywheel as its an auto and im going manual with the e30 box. once box is on engine with clutch set up and engine mounted in the car its all plain sailing after that. only about 7 wires for the whole engine :)

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:35 pm
by Alex
:cool: cannot wait to see it finished, hope you will do some videos, will have to do the usual 0-60 test etc winkeye

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:43 pm
by Andyboy
Should have left that engine in the U Boat it was taken from.

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:47 pm
by 336tdse
Andyboy wrote:Should have left that engine in the U Boat it was taken from.
and you should leave those sort of comments in the cocktail bar that you came from :shoot1:

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:52 pm
by 336tdse
Alex wrote::cool: cannot wait to see it finished, hope you will do some videos, will have to do the usual 0-60 test etc winkeye
will do a vid mate. not bothered on performance figures i leave that to my cosworth 45 mph - 168 mph in 26 seconds :)

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Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:53 pm
by Alex
:cool:

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:23 am
by richard-the-nutter
324td wrote:
richard-the-nutter wrote:should have gone for the 2.5vm in my opinion much more suited and plenty fast enough, especially with a few tweeks and an intercooler :D

but you had the engine already so....

bin in a discovery that had the 2.5 its not a patch on this engine :)

the grunt and sound is awesome i love it.
no disco was fitted with the vm
only the rangie and it would blow the doors off tdi :D

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:53 am
by 336tdse
richard-the-nutter wrote:
324td wrote:
richard-the-nutter wrote:should have gone for the 2.5vm in my opinion much more suited and plenty fast enough, especially with a few tweeks and an intercooler :D

but you had the engine already so....

bin in a discovery that had the 2.5 its not a patch on this engine :)

the grunt and sound is awesome i love it.
no disco was fitted with the vm
only the rangie and it would blow the doors off tdi :D
it was a conversion. 2.5 4 pot td vm engine.

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:56 am
by town325i
where did you dig that e30 up from looks like its been collecting dust fro the last 15 years

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:46 am
by jbh
looks like a fun job.. my old man would be chuffed to see this hes dropped a diesel lump into a few strange things ( some of them ppl would try and hang him for doing it ) where about are you located ?

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:55 pm
by 336tdse
bit more progress today. engine out of car and gearbox off. and auto box of the vm. im hoping to fabricate bm gearbox with front flange of rangerover gearbox, skin flywheel flat and drill holes for clutch mounting and input shaft of getrag box. few pics :)

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Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:03 pm
by E30BeemerLad
looks like you'll have fun with the location of the turbo conflicting with the driver side chassis rail?

Engine also looks very tall so you'll defo have to lean it over like the BMW mills are, which is where the clearance problems will probably arise.

Hats off for doing something different though


By the way, are those 16" MIM alloys fitted to the E30?

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:28 pm
by 336tdse
E30BeemerLad wrote:looks like you'll have fun with the location of the turbo conflicting with the driver side chassis rail?

Engine also looks very tall so you'll defo have to lean it over like the BMW mills are, which is where the clearance problems will probably arise.

Hats off for doing something different though


By the way, are those 16" MIM alloys fitted to the E30?

yeah there mims and im hoping to put engine in square i think turbo will be just above chassis rail just may need to cut bonnet and have a scoop.

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:41 pm
by E30BeemerLad
I suppose you are planning on keeping hold of the mims?

Reason I ask is I have a set of them here which were on the wife's mk2 golf, but one of them is well & truly bent. This is the only other set of them i've seen.

Really i'm just after 1 alloy but would buy a set of 4 if necessary (when funds permit)

alternatively i would look at moving on the ones I have. Want any spare wheels lol?

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:26 pm
by 336tdse
got the gearbox on today for a dummy run and apart from sump pan alterations engine will fit :)
planing to bolt bmw flywheel to original auto flywheel behind where the torque was mounted. torque and bmw flywheel weigh the same so should be ok. just gotta get an adapter machined professionally for between flywheels and hole for gearbox input shaft. clutch, gearbox mount and prop will all be standard fitment :)
will take some more pics when gearbox is on properly and engine is in car with the sump off :)

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:51 pm
by aj_mckay
Very cool, can't wait to see the outcome of this... :cool:

Re: my e30 3.6 td project

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:31 pm
by 336tdse
flywheel and adapter are in for machining should be ready for pick up monday :) ive cut the crossmember out between headlights and the lower part so engine will go in easy and i can keep the viscous fan setup now. i think the rad will be about where the grill was. should have engine in hopefully next week with gearbox on then i can mod the sump and make engine mounts.