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Twenty Years On....an old sedan
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:14 pm
by AlpineAde
I usually take pics of parts and of the car when the parts are fitted. I have never really tried to take photos of the car just for the hell of it.
Now I have ...just for the hell of it.
I suck at taking photos but I think the car holds the years well and I just wanted a record of how it is usually presented ~ especially now that ity is only a few months away from its 20th birthday.
Right click and "view image" for larger pics.
Re: Twenty Years On....an old sedan
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:34 pm
by Alex
looks good, rust free too but then again it would be in australia

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:34 pm
by Cloud
That's almost exactly how I want mine to look, once it's all finished. I'd have more council smoked lights, and a less council exhaust, but for my own tastes, E30s don't look much better than that one you have there. Mmm.
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:08 pm
by Hyperion
she looks very cool. thats car is a credit to you.
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:13 pm
by SlipNSlide
I don't usualy like 4 doors. but this one does it for me. good job buddy!
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:01 pm
by AlpineAde
Alex wrote:looks good, rust free too but then again it would be in australia

Thanks man.
The rust thing is absent but we have that nasty sun that just kills plastics and leather. Still, lesser of two evils, as they say.
Cloud wrote:
That's almost exactly how I want mine to look, once it's all finished. I'd have more council smoked lights, and a less council exhaust, but for my own tastes, E30s don't look much better than that one you have there. Mmm.
Cheers, Cloud.
LOL at the council exhaust.

I've never thought of Supersprint exhausts being "council". Hee Hee!
I'm glad you like the car. Thanks for the kind words. Appreciate it.
Hyperion wrote:she looks very cool. thats car is a credit to you.
Thank you, Hyperion. That's very kind of you to say.
SlipNSlide wrote:I don't usualy like 4 doors. but this one does it for me. good job buddy!
Cheers, SlipNSlide...thanks for the compliment.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:04 pm
by StuBeeDoo
White!
4-door!
Lovin' it. 
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:49 am
by robbo86
I didnt think the exhaust looked council at all!
I would say my dtm scorpion is more council!
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:05 am
by AlpineAde
StuBeeDoo wrote:White!
4-door!
Lovin' it. 
Ah, nice one, man. Cheers!
robbo86 wrote:I didnt think the exhaust looked council at all!
I would say my dtm scorpion is more council!
Yep, I always thought the Supersprints were quite restrained.
Except for the horsie pictures on the tips.
And I quite like those.
The DTM style...that's the upturned tips, isn't it? They're fine, I thought.
I do get a little confused with big coffee can exhaust tips on these cars. I've always thought that looks a little odd.
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:09 am
by robbo86
The DTM style...that's the upturned tips, isn't it? They're fine, I thought.
yep DTM are the upturned ones, a lot of people dont like them on here for some reason (but then oddly a lot of people on here seem to have them as well)
Except for the horsie pictures on the tips
my scorpion zorst (twin pipes) has the word Scorpion on the end of each one and a little scorpion design so I wouldnt worry about it, no different to having a bmw badge on your car, or addidas label on your trainers
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:28 am
by AlpineAde
My thoughts exactly, robbo.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:53 am
by shafiq
lookz slik bruv
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:02 pm
by AlpineAde
Cheers, man!
Ta for the comment.

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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:57 pm
by robbo86
anymore plans for it then?
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:00 pm
by AlpineAde
Quite a few...
At the moment it has a completely rebuilt suspension (Koni/Eibach, M3 CA bushes, etc., etc...), new brakes (ATE Powerdiscs, EBC pads ~ yellows and greens ~ AP Racing fluid, E32 brake master cylinder, new lines, etc. etc...), Supersprint cat-back exhaust, and a load of cosmetic bits and pieces (bumper inserts, number plate mounting cover/trim, badges, various moldings, strips and trim, gear shift knob, steering wheel, etc., etc...)
I have a Schrick cam, Big Bore Throttle Body, a ported inlet manifold, a 6 branch exhaust manifold all sitting in my house waiting to be fitted and I have my feelers out for appropriate engine management. I'm having a top end rebuild, too, whilst the head is off for the cam, so the head will get a bit of work. I also plan to lose the AFM (bloody restrictive thing that seems to make for a rather laggy throttle). I'm still toying with the idea of individual throttle bodies...I love the responsiveness you get.
Schrick valve springs are on the way. As are parts I need for the head build. I'm also having some of the leather retrimmed and a new boot made for the gear shift.
Ideally the car will look completely stock, except it will move a bit faster than it originally did.
I want it not so much to look "like new" but for people to see it and say "My! That's a well cared for old car".
Ah, forgot to post a pic of the interior....
And a final pic from a trackday held recently:

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:18 pm
by Cloud
AlpineAde wrote:
Ideally the car will look completely stock, except it will move a bit faster than it originally did.
I want it not so much to look "like new" but for people to see it and say "My! That's a well cared for old car".
!
We have exactly the same goals. For exactly the same kind of car.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:28 pm
by AlpineAde
Maybe I'm not bonkers, then.
Or perhaps we both are.

LOL!
It's just a sort of thing that appeals to me. I like the look of the standard car. The only thing I would change (aside form the Recaro shell I have in the car and that is more from necessity than anything else) is to lose the 14" rims and source a set of 15" rims. Much better. 15" is pretty much perfect for these cars. Unfortunately the 15" rims in that style are almost impossible to get in Australia. Still, I'll just bide my time.....
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:33 pm
by Cloud
Possibly we both are, but you've justified it with a stunning car.
I haven't got that far yet.
In that last picture, are the wheels cambered?
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:41 pm
by AlpineAde
Looking at -2.5 degrees of camber all round +/- .1 degree
9.10 degree of caster front left
9.12 degree of caster front right
1mm toe on the front, give or take....
-1mm of toe at the rear, give or take....
Ideally I would prefer something like -3 degrees front and -2 degrees rear, but this setup works quite nicely.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:38 pm
by robbo86
AlpineAde wrote:Looking at -2.5 degrees of camber all round +/- .1 degree
9.10 degree of caster front left
9.12 degree of caster front right
1mm toe on the front, give or take....
-1mm of toe at the rear, give or take....
Ideally I would prefer something like -3 degrees front and -2 degrees rear, but this setup works quite nicely.
are you speaking english???
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:54 pm
by Cloud
It makes a bit of sense.
Which component is it that allows for that camber, caster and toe; and is it adjustable?
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:56 pm
by AlpineAde
robbo86 wrote:AlpineAde wrote:Looking at -2.5 degrees of camber all round +/- .1 degree
9.10 degree of caster front left
9.12 degree of caster front right
1mm toe on the front, give or take....
-1mm of toe at the rear, give or take....
Ideally I would prefer something like -3 degrees front and -2 degrees rear, but this setup works quite nicely.
are you speaking english???
I hope so.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:04 pm
by AlpineAde
Cloud wrote:Which component is it that allows for that camber, caster and toe; and is it adjustable?
The M3 bushes allow for the added caster.
Simply lowering the car increases the negative camber.
After the suspension was installed we had an alignment done and ended up with those readings. I was very pleased. Nothing way out of whack (ergo no major shunts on the car). I have nothing in the car that allows for any real tweaking...it came out as it came out.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:01 pm
by Cloud
That's pretty good to know. I may do the same thing. Thanks.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:10 pm
by AlpineAde
No problem, Cloud.
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:15 pm
by robbo86
Alpine (whats your real name?) just thought I would point you in the direction of this!
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... 71#1214271
I have already pointed him in this direction!
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:46 am
by AlpineAde
Thanks, robbo.
My name is Ade but it was taken on this board ~ hence "AlpineAde", which kind'a sucks.... LOL!
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:36 am
by Cloud
AlpineAde wrote:"AlpineAde", which kind'a sucks.... LOL!
Makes me think of an American soft drink with a Swiss flag on the label.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:21 am
by AlpineAde
LOL!